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Meetingminutes Minutes19092018

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September 19, 2018 Meeting Minutes - Draft

Meeting commenced 1:00 PM PST

  • Roll call (Tony) - quorum achieved.(12 of 14 Voting Members Present)

Meeting Attendees

Name Affiliation Role Present
Tony Cox Cryptsoft Pty Ltd Co-Chair, Voting Member Yes
Bob Relyea Red Hat Co-Chair, Voting Member Yes
Valerie Fenwick Intel Secretary, Voting Member Yes
Dieter Bong Utimaco IS GmbH Voting Member -
Hamish Cameron Thales e-Security Voting Member Yes
Justin Corlett Cryptsoft Pty Ltd Voting Member
Yes
Indra Fitzgerald Micro Focus Voting Member
Yes
Tim Hudson Cryptsoft Pty Ltd Voting Member
Yes
Gershon Janssen Individual Member -
Darren Johnson SafeNet, Inc. Voting Member
Yes
John Leiseboer QuintessenceLabs Pty Ltd Member -
Daniel Minder Utimaco IS GmbH Voting Member
Yes
Bruce Rich CryptSoft Pty Ltd Voting Member
Yes
Greg Scott CryptSoft Pty Ltd Voting Member
Yes
Gerald Stueve Fornetix Voting Member
Yes
Chris Zimman Individual Voting Member
-

Proposed agenda

  • Roll call
  • Review / approval of the agenda
  • Approve Minutes (Sept 5, 2018)
  • V3.0 Items
    • Review Spec V3 from Chris Z
    • Review Mechanisms V3 form Chris Z
    • Profiles document
    • Revisit Function list(including Daniel's updated proposal)
    • Update header files
    • Usage Guide
    • Planning to review/complete
  • New business
    • Regular meeting time
    • Postponed: header file licensing
  • Next meeting
  • Call for late arrivals
  • Adjourn

Motion to approve Agenda

  • Tim moved, Daniel seconded. No objections, comments or abstentions. Agenda approved.

Motion to approve meeting minutes

  • September 05, 2018
  • Daniel moved. Greg seconded. No objections, comments or abstentions. Minutes approved.

v3.0 Items

Review Spec V3 from Chris Z, Review Mechanisms V3 form Chris Z

  • deferred.

Review Mechanisms V3 from Chris Z

  • deferred.

Profiles document

  • Tim sent an update out yesterday addressing known outstanding questions, there are some questions in the document.
  • Discussion on section 2.4 in profiles document, where to put the identifiers. Bob is recommending minimizing the number of places we define something.
  • Questions on whether or not header files/machine readable files are normative and authoritative. Tim states they are. Bob noted we had confusion in 2.40 where we did not treat them like that, but they should've been, and we could've avoided inconsistency issues between header files and base spec.
    • Table 5 in the base spec may be an issue, for example, to be revisited.
  • Tim has been cross-referencing against the headerfiles in github as he does this. Founds some inconsistencies. Tim will send a request to Bob requesting an identifier to get the update into the identifier database, or a pull request covering both sides.

Revisit Functions List in headers and update header files overall (including Daniel's updated proposal)

  • Daniel explained last meeting. Received feedback from Valerie & Tim. Tim wrote his own proposal, pointing out interface names should be UTF8 Chars Further discussion ensue about how to pull the functions out. Can find examples similar to each in the standard. Bob noted variant 0 was closest to what he was looking for, but hasn't seen Tim's proposal. (find everything that's possible, or just what you're interested in). There are several different potential use cases. We got here due to vendor's extending the function tables.
    • Daniel is about to go on a 1 month leave, and is happy to hand it over to Tim to get in shape for vote. Daniel is happy with Tim's approach as well.
    • Tim will work with Daniel before he goes on leave next week, and provide an updated proposal to the TC.
    • Tim noted that some of the rational here should be noted in the usage guide.
    • There are some deeper discussions possibly still to have (started in call) that need to be finished, ideally on the reflector so others can chime in.

Update header files

  • no updates until function list completed.

Usage guide

  • John not in attendance today. deferred.

Planning for review/complete

New business

  • Postponed: Bob would like to discuss the licensing of the header file in the next meeting.

Next meeting

  • Next meeting will be Oct 3, 2018.

Call for late arrivals

  • Gerry.

Motion to Adjourn

  • Tim moved. Gerry seconded. No objections, comments or abstentions. Adjourned.

Meeting Adjourned at 1:58 PM PST

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