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April 04, 2018 Meeting Minutes - Approved

Meeting commenced 1:00 PM PST

  • Roll call (Tony) - quorum achieved.

Proposed agenda

  • Roll call
  • Review / approval of the agenda
  • Review of previous meeting minutes (March 21, 2018)
  • V3.0 Items (Other business to be covered in the following meetings)
    • Review Spec V3 from Chris Z
    • Review Mechanisms V3 form Chris Z
    • Planning for review/complete
  • Proposal - Salsa20 & CHaCHa20 - Stef M
  • Proposal - Blake2b - Stef M
  • Proposal - X3DH & DoubleRatchet - Stef M
  • Proposal - XEDDSA signateur mechanism - Stef M
  • Revisit Function names
  • Comment on comments list (Girish Kumar, CKA_TRUSTED). (Tony C) (https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/pkcs11-comment/201709/msg00000.html)
  • Comments list query (Timo Teras, ETSI TS 103 097 certificates)
  • Letter to NIST regarding AES GCM IV generation (Tony)
  • PKCS#11 F2F Meeting (April 11 2018)
    • Joint dinner with KMIP TC
  • RSA Conference Interop Showcase
    • RSA 2019
  • PKCS#11 Repository & Header files (Valerie)
  • New business
    • Bob Lockhart
  • Next meeting
  • Call for late arrivals
  • Adjourn

Motion to approve Agenda

  • Tim moved, Gerry seconded. No objections, comments or abstentions. Agenda approved.

Motion to approve meeting minutes

  • March 21, 2018
  • Tim moved. Dieter seconded. No objections, comments or abstentions. Minutes approved.

v3.0 Items

Review Spec V3 from Chris Z, Review Mechanisms V3 form Chris Z

  • Question on where the latest copies are? TOny: believes there's a draft in process. Header files are maintained in the repo, we're commenting on the one in the repo.

Planning for review/complete

Proposal - Salsa20 & CHaCHa20 - Stef M

  • Identifiers are allocated, Tony will open the ballots shortly.

Proposal - Blake2b - Stef M.

  • ditto

Proposal - XEDDSA signateur mechanism - Stef M

  • ditto

Proposal - X3DH & DoubleRatchet - Stef M

  • ditto

Revisit Function names - Tony

  • Tony was unable to touch base with Bob this week, hope to do it next week.

Comment on comments list (Girish Kumar, CKA_TRUSTED). (Tony) (https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/pkcs11-comment/201709/msg00000.html)

  • Tony to reply.

Comments list query (Timo Teras, ETSI TS 103 097 certificates) - Tony to reply

  • Tony to reply

Letter to NIST regarding AES GCM IV generation (Tony)

  • No response to our letter, do we wish to reiterate? Or let it lie?
  • Tim suggested co-chairs and secretary try to touch base with NIST at ICMC.
  • Valerie - do we need to check with OASIS Admin?
  • Tony does not believe this is necessary, since it is conversation vs written letter. We could just have a casual conversation.
  • Tim - we could move to appoint an official liaison to NIST?
  • no disagreements with doing this casually at ICMC.

PKCS#11 F2F Meeting (April 11, 2018)

  • Unable to secure a new location, it will be at Red Hat. Need location from Bob.
  • Please keep an eye out for straw poll for attendance, should be opened as soon as he confirms with BOb.
  • Calling for agenda items - Please send them to Bob & Tony. Valerie will send reminder to list.
  • Dinner w/KMIP - April 12, 2018.
    • Have approval to fund a joint dinner, food only. Alcohol will be on a separate tab, please plan to cover your own.
    • Need straw poll for attendees. Valerie will open straw poll for attendees from PKCS#11. Tony will open straw poll for dinner attendance for KMIP.
    • Tony will send the address. Near N. First and Montague.

RSA 2018 Interop Showcase

  • Most vendors are doing both, only Utamaco is doing PKCS#11 only.
  • Vendors will be able to give short presentations about what they are doing.
  • Chairs are putting the TC focused decks together, without any vendor specific content.
  • There will be a roster for the slots going around.

RSA 2019 Interop Showcase

  • OASIS has already put out the call for participants, before TC approved.
  • Should we vote now or discuss in Face 2 Face?
  • Tim: Sees less value, since there is no actual interop, and it gets over shadowed by KMIP.
  • Tony: OASIS is not running this as two co-located events, just as a booth. making this trickier. In earlier years, we had sides of the booth dedicated to the different things. It's now hard to show that there are two events at the same time. Unless we can deliver serious value, we consider if we want to do this or not
  • Valerie: Disagrees, did not think last year's booth was confusing. Some vendors did both, or KMIP or PKCS#11 and directed people as needed. It improved visibility of our work and vendors working together.
  • Tim: Thinks people were confused and many people asked him. We should do more webinars, outreach
  • Valerie disagrees, PKCS#11 itself does not lend itself to interoperability.
  • Tim: Doeesn't think this mechanism works, there are better ways to gain awareness. This is called an INterop Showcase
  • Valerie: Did not see any confusion, people were curious why seeming competitors were next to each other, and it generated discussions about OASIS as a standards body and to the standards. if your company does not see value, do not sign up.
  • Tony: Quorum is too narrow to make a decision now, discuss next week if we should participate and should we do a true interop?
  • Dieter: good presentations there last year, will discuss more Face to Face.
  • Darren: Not sure my company would be interested in paying, does OASIS Sponsor? Tony - If Safenet wants to participate, would need to buy a pod space. Pass is free (exhibitor pass)
  • Valerie: explained the cost, one price for both, based on the contract sent out.
  • Tim: OASIS is changing this and has effectively withdrawn the contract (etc - Valerie doesn't want to include further notes w/out email from OASIS)
  • Tony: TC must vote to hold a showcase or demonstration before OASIS can start, according to OASIS rules.
  • Post meeting note: OASIS has sent a clarifying email to the TC, reservations are on hold.

PKCS#11 Repository & Header files (Valerie/Bob)

  • Valerie still owes wiki update
  • Tim sent feedback to chairs regarding missing functions from header files, they need to be added. Awaiting for information from Bob.

New business

  • Bob Lockhart
    • Bob was a valued friend and colleague, and very involved with both KMIP and PKCS#11
    • Valerie moves on behalf of the TC to acknowledge Bob Lockhart as a founding member of this OASIS PKCS#11 TC, a major contributor to the standard over the years, even before the standard came into OASIS. Bob will be remembered for his outstanding contributions to this technical committee, his passion and his great sense of humor. Tim seconded. No objections, comments or abstentions. Motion passed, and will be noted on TC wiki page.
    • Bob did believe in charities, let us know if you want to make a donation in his honor.
    • We will be raising a glass to him at RSA.

Next meeting

  • April 11, 2018 - Face to face.

Call for late arrivals

  • none

Motion to Adjourn

  • Tim moved. Gerry seconded. No objections, comments or abstentions. Adjourned.

Meeting Adjourned at 1:53 PM PST

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