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- Roll call taken by Valerie F, quorum achieved.
- Valerie F taking minutes.
- Attendance: Valerie Fenwick, Bob Relyea, Simo Sorce, Jonathan Schulze-Hewett, Tony Cox, Darren Johnson, Tim Hudson, Scott Marshall, Mike Markowitz,
- Leave of Absence: Dieter Bong
- Roll call
- Review / approval of the agenda
- Approve Minutes (August 14, 2024)
- PKCS#11 v3.2
- Work Items
- Action Items
- Public Comments Items
- PKCS#11 V3.0 Errata
- New Business
- Next Meeting
- Call for late arrivals
- Adjourn
- Motion: That the agenda for this meeting be approved.
- Moved: Jonathan . Seconded: Darren. No objections, abstentions or comments. Agenda approved.
- Motion: That the minutes posted for August 14, 2024 be approved.
- Moved: Darren. Seconded: Jonathan. No objections, abstentions or comments. Minutes approved.
- Items tracked in Wiki
- Item #9 : Document uploaded on July 31. Darren reviewed, no concerns. Tim is having (?)
- Item #15: Valerie has reviewed. Uploaded on Aug 6. Folks review and let's vote at our next meeting.
- Item #7: Jonathan uploaded a new draft, removed major changes, removed commentary and made it more explicit what the data should be.
- Darren moved to accept Jonathan's draft, August 14, 2024 , Mike seconded. No objections, abstentions or comments. Motion approved.
- Post Quantum.
- Bob proposed to add 3 new mechanisms per hash. There are a few options in Bob's email (dated 27-Aug-2024). Bob did not include items that did not have a published spec for.
- In the email, it seems like the reflector turned tabs into a series of question marks. Please interpret that as white space. Bob's questions in his email are explicit.
- Spec implies (to Bob) that we also need to do non-deterministic. Darren has a slightly different interpretation, will look at the spec and Bob's proposal.
- The OID is built into the hash. Do we want optional parameters?
- There are different hash algs for each mechanism. Bob plans to split them out. The data you pass in is the message. There is some room for interpretation from the spec for Module Lattice Based Digital Signature.
- Bob will remove this part of his proposal, based on discussion: The application is responsible for the entire hash including the hash oid as specified in the FIPS specs. Bob noted a few things from the discussion and will send an update.
- What do we do about the lack of variability? This is not the only place we have this.
- Bob proposed to add 3 new mechanisms per hash. There are a few options in Bob's email (dated 27-Aug-2024). Bob did not include items that did not have a published spec for.
- Valerie to add this topic as a new work item on our list, even though it is an update of prior work - it will make it clear what is approved.
- The current text in WD5 doesn't match Bob's last proposal for items 6.1, Darren doesn't think. Bob will check WD5 for item 6.1, as part of his review.
- Email from: Robert Künnemann (shared by Darren Johnson)
- Outstanding action: Valerie to add the substantive changes to 3.3 work item list.
- Pending Jira ticket/action. Kelly cannot find the ticket.
- Simo noticed some long standing issues in the TLS section. Requested he create a word/openoffice document with the original text and proposed changes, send to committee and we can decide if the changes are substantive or editorial and decide next steps.
- Simo has a KDF he would like to see. Requested he create a proposal and committee can determine if appropriate for for 3.2 or 3.3
- Darren moved to set next meeting for Sept 11, 2024. Seconded: Michael. No objections, abstentions, or comments. Meeting date set.
- none
- Motion: That the meeting be adjourned.
- Moved: Darren Seconded: Michael. No objections, abstentions, or comments. Meeting adjourned.
- Meeting Adjourned at 1:56 PM PT