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Event‑Ready Seattle: Delivering Seamless Trips During FIFA
Agenda
- Intro and announcements (10 min)
- Event‑Ready Seattle: Delivering Seamless Trips During FIFA (30 mins)
- MDS at FIFA World Cup: Your city, vendor, operator stories (15 mins)
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- 65 Attendees
- OMF Slides
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Recording - Passcode:
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See meeting slides, chat log, and recording for full details.
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00:04:31 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Good morning, afternoon and evening everyone! Great to see you on this call! Excited about today’s topic!
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00:07:36 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Blog post https://www.openmobilityfoundation.org/mds-new-tools-for-safer-streets/
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00:09:17 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Agenda for today https://www.openmobilityfoundation.org/mds-new-tools-for-safer-streets/
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00:09:25 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Please introduce yourself in the chat!
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00:09:45 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And update your name to add your organization after your name in the participants list please
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00:10:34 Lawrence Fan (CurbIQ / Arcadis): Hi all, Lawrence from CurbIQ here
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00:10:48 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Calendar https://calendar.google.com/calendar/u/0/embed?src=openmobilityfoundation.org_g6gsaccjvijnmlhigfpj01ngp0@group.calendar.google.com&ctz=America/Los_Angeles
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00:11:58 Aylene McCallum, Open Mobility Foundation: And Open Mobility Mixers ARE available to ANYONE
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00:12:05 Aylene McCallum, Open Mobility Foundation: OMF membership is not required to attend
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00:12:29 remi kuti (CEO Founder UrbanShield): Hi everyone, I’m Remi, founder of UrbanShield. We’re developing micromobility safety technology and exploring how our incident data can integrate with MDS.
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00:12:56 Aylene McCallum, Open Mobility Foundation: If your organization is interested in hosting an Open Mobility Mixer in a city in the future, please reach out to me (Aylene McCallum - aylene@openmobilityfoundation.org)
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00:17:32 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Same setup and vehicles with Lime in Louisville, KY where I live.
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00:18:25 John Clary - Austin, TX: Reacted to "Same setup and vehic..." with 👍
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00:20:16 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Leave any questions in the chat and we can get to them after the presentation.
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00:20:41 Pamela Lee (LADOT): How much funding did you get from the state and how much does it each parking spot cost per installation?
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00:22:28 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Nice use of MDS trip data to determine historic demand at events of scooters and bikes!
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00:23:37 Joshua Fogelson: What is your current total vehicle count? And average utilization?
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00:23:55 Jerad Weiner (San Francisco Public Works): Reacted to "How much funding did you get from the state and how much does it each parking spot cost per installation?" with 👍
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00:24:02 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: @Pamela Lee (LADOT): OF the FIFA funds provided to the City, the Shared Mobility team use ~00K for the project
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00:24:49 Aylene McCallum, Open Mobility Foundation: My family visited Seattle to attend two World Cup games and benefited from the helmet distribution - thank you Lime!
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00:25:04 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: @Pamela Lee (LADOT) We also contributed funding from vendor fees. Activities also included extensive engagement with community in certain areas.
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00:25:09 Armand Shahbazian - Seattle DOT: Reacted to "My family visited Seattle to attend two World Cup games and benefited from the helmet distribution - thank you Lime!" with ❤️
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00:25:25 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Did you use CDS to understand any of the potential parking areas, or the curb corrals or valet area used? Maybe a question for @Brian Hamlin | Seattle DOT
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00:25:29 Pamela Lee (LADOT): Reacted to "@Pamela Lee (LADOT): OF the FIFA funds provided to the City, the Shared Mobility team use ~00K for the project" with 👍
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00:25:42 Pamela Lee (LADOT): Reacted to "@Pamela Lee (LADOT) We also contributed funding from vendor fees. Activities also included extensive engagement with community in certain areas." with 👍
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00:25:55 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Great use of MDS Policy geofencing for special event management!
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00:25:58 Jerad Weiner (San Francisco Public Works): I'm curious about how the painted micromobility zones work and enforcement. Are those coordinated with the vendor?
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00:26:05 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Reacted to "Great use of MDS Policy geofencing for special event management!" with 🌟
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00:26:09 Tony Geara: Great summary
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Q: Was something similar conducted for ride hailing demand and PUDO zones?
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00:26:26 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Replying to "I'm curious about ho..."
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Great question!
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00:26:45 Armand Shahbazian - Seattle DOT: Replying to "Great summary
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Q: Was something similar conducted for ride hailing demand and PUDO zones?"
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We did manual coordination with ride hailing and were not able to implement MDS/CDS for this application, but we are looking into it for future events
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00:26:56 Aylene McCallum, Open Mobility Foundation: We also used the bus - the system was SO great and made it so easy to get around town!
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00:27:03 Armand Shahbazian - Seattle DOT: Reacted to "We also used the bus - the system was SO great and made it so easy to get around town!" with ❤️
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00:27:16 Shayda Rager - SFMTA (she/her): Reacted to "I'm curious about how the painted micromobility zones work and enforcement. Are those coordinated with the vendor?" with 👍
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00:27:47 Armand Shahbazian - Seattle DOT: Peep Lime's e-cargo trikes that they used for helmet distribution 🙂
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00:28:02 Hayden Harvey | Lime 🚲🛴: Replying to "What is your current..."
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Roughly 15,000
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TVD: nearly 3
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00:28:27 Armand Shahbazian - Seattle DOT: Reacted to "Roughly 15,000
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TVD: nearly 3
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00:28:29 Aylene McCallum, Open Mobility Foundation: Reacted to "Peep Lime's e-cargo trikes that they used for helmet distribution 🙂" with 📦
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00:28:43 Lawrence Fan (CurbIQ / Arcadis): For the trip data, did they give the exact routing of the trip or was the routing an assumption based on the start/end point of the trip
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00:31:15 Armand Shahbazian - Seattle DOT: Here's a blog post from SDOT on our World Cup ridership: Seattle saw 83k+ bike and scooter share rides Friday, a new record - SDOT Blog
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00:31:20 Tony Geara: Reacted to For the trip data, d... with "👆"
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00:32:54 Joshua Fogelson: Reacted to "Roughly 15,000
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TVD: nearly 3
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00:36:01 Armand Shahbazian - Seattle DOT: Intersection daylighting is a priority in the Mayor's recent Vision Zero Executive Order; so we are hoping for continued momentum on this work: Mayor Wilson Signs Executive Order to Accelerate and Strengthen Seattle’s Vision Zero Work - Office of the Mayor
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00:39:09 Armand Shahbazian - Seattle DOT: Bike and Scoot to Transit: Bike & Scoot to Transit - King County, Washington
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00:40:17 Jerad Weiner (San Francisco Public Works): How many painted sidewalk parking zones were installed? Thanks again, great presentation!
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00:45:36 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): https://github.com/openmobilityfoundation/mobility-data-specification/blob/main/modes/passenger-services.md
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00:48:50 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): MDS Policy and AV emergency response, also focused on Seattle! https://www.openmobilityfoundation.org/taxi-avs-mds-policy/
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00:49:34 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): General information about MDS and the Passenger modes https://www.openmobilityfoundation.org/data-digital-policy-how-mds-is-used-for-passenger-services/
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00:55:20 Hayden Harvey | Lime 🚲🛴: Some additional media that touches on the Lime operation during World Cup in Seattle (no MDS mentions, sry Andrew 😉🙂
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00:56:42 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Reacted to "Some additional media that touches on the Lime operation during World Cup in Seattle (no MDS mentions, sry Andrew 😉🙂
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00:57:52 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: The sentiment is shared on our side, @Vladimir Gallegos (LADOT-Commercial Rideshare & Mobiliy)). Seattle learns a lot from LADOT.
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00:58:29 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Thanks for joining today! Thanks @Austin Vigesaa and Team SDOT for the presentation!
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00:58:45 Jerad Weiner (San Francisco Public Works): Reacted to "Thanks for joining today! Thanks @Austin Vigesaa and Team SDOT for the presentation!" with 🏆
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00:58:47 Armand Shahbazian - Seattle DOT: Reacted to "Thanks for joining today! Thanks @Austin Vigesaa and Team SDOT for the presentation!" with 🏆
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1 00:00:04.210 --> 00:00:08.830 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Hi, everyone. Welcome to the OMF MDS Public Working Group meeting.
2 00:00:09.090 --> 00:00:22.930 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): My name is Michael Schnerle, I'm the Director of Open Source Operations for the OMF, and I'm going to run this meeting today. We have a great topic, it's, specifically focused on Seattle and some of the World Cup
3 00:00:23.050 --> 00:00:32.919 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): trip management using MDS, during the FIFA matches this last summer. So, excited to hear from them about what they did.
4 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:36.690 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): A little bit of housekeeping before we kick that off.
5 00:00:37.060 --> 00:00:45.640 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Please set your full name and organization after your name in the participant list, so head over there, find your name at the top.
6 00:00:45.710 --> 00:00:54.230 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Click the three dots, and click Rename, and then you can rename yourself. Make sure to add your organization that you represent, city or company.
7 00:00:54.240 --> 00:01:06.289 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): That helps with note-taking and to know who you represent. Mute yourself for now, but feel free to introduce yourself in the chat at any time. Do it right now or during the meeting.
8 00:01:06.400 --> 00:01:12.179 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): So, say, you can say who you are, share a link, information about yourself, etc.
9 00:01:13.430 --> 00:01:22.200 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Use the chat to leave questions as we go, especially about the Seattle presentation, and at the end, we'll have time for Q&A.
10 00:01:22.460 --> 00:01:26.639 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And this meeting is being recorded and will be published with notes.
11 00:01:28.030 --> 00:01:38.280 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): So here's the agenda. We'll do a little bit of intro and announcements from the OMF side, then we'll have Seattle present about their World Cup information.
12 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:52.860 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And then, number 3, I sent this out in the email about today, but MDS at the World Cup, so if you are a company or a city that did something using MDS during any of the World Cup matches around
13 00:01:52.910 --> 00:01:54.929 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): North America.
14 00:01:55.310 --> 00:02:06.069 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Feel free to be able… be ready to share that at the end. We're gonna save some time at the end, so if you want to share a single slide or a link.
15 00:02:06.080 --> 00:02:16.439 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): or talk for a minute about something you did, we'd love to hear from you and your perspective, to add to this conversation. So keep that in mind as we're going along.
16 00:02:18.360 --> 00:02:34.210 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): All right, a little bit of introductions. We are talking about MDS today. Version 2.1 was released very recently. On the right here is a list of our steering committee members, and this is a newly elected steering committee. It's a long list.
17 00:02:34.320 --> 00:02:38.969 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Here is a more detailed list of each member of the organization.
18 00:02:39.320 --> 00:02:52.359 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Oh, and title, those… actually, those headings are reversed there, so it's the title first, and then the organization, and then which sector they're part of, public or private. You can see it's a great mix of people.
19 00:02:52.650 --> 00:03:07.480 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): sizes of companies and cities, and really good MDS steering committee for the next year. These are all OMF member organizations that have people who have volunteered their time to be on this committee.
20 00:03:07.560 --> 00:03:25.319 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And they, they set the agendas for these meetings and do other things, so thank… thanks to all of them for doing that, and many of them are on the call now, so, feel free to thank them, and if you're one of the steering committee members, introduce yourself in the chat if you're able.
21 00:03:28.300 --> 00:03:44.730 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): A little bit about MDS. MDS is a global data standard. Over 200 commercial mobility service providers send MDS to cities or receive it from cities, and they operate in over 1,200 cities and dozens of countries around the world.
22 00:03:44.850 --> 00:03:48.619 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): So, very, very widely, adopted.
23 00:03:48.930 --> 00:03:56.599 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): For MDS 2.1, we have a number of resources that have been updated. All the ones with the green checkmarks are available.
24 00:03:56.710 --> 00:04:13.899 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): So, obviously our main GitHub page is updated, the website, has been updated in multiple places, use cases have been updated for 2.1, policy language that you can write into your permits, tenders, or RFPs. We have a blog post about it.
25 00:04:14.100 --> 00:04:18.110 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Actually, I'll go ahead and just open that, and then share it right here.
26 00:04:18.890 --> 00:04:23.220 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): our blog, It's the top one for now.
27 00:04:24.080 --> 00:04:27.389 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): So, here is the blog post I'll put in the chat.
28 00:04:32.030 --> 00:04:38.709 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): About MDS 2.1. We also have a slide deck if you ever want to present on it, you can let us know, and we can share that.
29 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:57.249 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And then a media release went out as well. The last thing that's not done is OpenAPI, which is a digital schema for those wanting to develop in MDS and validate their data feeds. This is a volunteer-led effort. If you use this and you'd like to see this updated and help with that effort, reach out to me.
30 00:04:57.250 --> 00:05:02.589 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Or the OMF through our website, and we can work on that, collectively.
31 00:05:05.200 --> 00:05:18.479 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): I want to thank our Premier and associate members of the OMF. These are private sector organizations that have joined the OMF because they see value in it.
32 00:05:18.980 --> 00:05:35.809 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): I'm looking to see if there's any new ones, anything to announce on the OMF side? Okay. We'll just thank them all for now, and many of them have been part of the OMF for years, and some are new, but, thank you all for joining the OMF.
33 00:05:38.090 --> 00:05:44.409 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And I do want to point out, and Aylene, could you talk to this, our upcoming OMF Academy sessions for members?
34 00:05:51.610 --> 00:05:53.940 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Oh, wait, are you muted? Hold on.
35 00:05:53.940 --> 00:06:13.590 Aylene McCallum, Open Mobility Foundation: There I am, I was muted. Okay, so yes, upcoming OMF Academy sessions. The OMF Academy provides these professional development sessions on digital infrastructure, like an introductory course on digital infrastructure, as well as intro courses on MDS 101 and ZDS 101.
36 00:06:13.590 --> 00:06:18.180 Aylene McCallum, Open Mobility Foundation: So really going into what are these data specifications.
37 00:06:18.180 --> 00:06:26.360 Aylene McCallum, Open Mobility Foundation: what are they for? How were they developed? Why are they used? Who are the stakeholders? Who do they benefit? Kind of answering all of those questions.
38 00:06:26.370 --> 00:06:44.960 Aylene McCallum, Open Mobility Foundation: So, these are only available to OMF members, so if your organization is interested in participating in these, but you're not an OMF member yet, please reach out to me. OMF membership, particularly for public organizations, is pretty easy.
39 00:06:44.960 --> 00:06:47.150 Aylene McCallum, Open Mobility Foundation: We just need you to…
40 00:06:47.150 --> 00:06:56.759 Aylene McCallum, Open Mobility Foundation: sign a document, and we'll turn it back to us. For commercial organizations, there is a membership fee, but, just reach out, we can talk about it.
41 00:06:56.760 --> 00:07:12.419 Aylene McCallum, Open Mobility Foundation: And I think you might find these sessions really beneficial, particularly for, educating the folks that you work with on what the OMF is and, and what these data specifications are, and how they can be helpful to your work. So, hope to see you there.
42 00:07:14.190 --> 00:07:17.769 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Thank you, Aylene, for that. The sessions are really great.
43 00:07:18.010 --> 00:07:37.219 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): participated in them, you know that, and feel free to send other people over, if you want other people in your organization to learn about the different specs we have in the OMF. We also have a public OMF calendar. This is… I'm gonna send this in the chat, too. So,
44 00:07:41.780 --> 00:07:58.519 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): This allows you to see everything the OMF is doing with meetings like this one that are public. Even some of our member meetings are listed here, just so you know when they're happening, and then, events and conferences that we're at as well, so you can subscribe to it or look at it on the web.
45 00:08:00.470 --> 00:08:13.519 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And then, this is a list of where we're going to be through the end of the year. Aylene… Andrew, do you want to talk about this at all? We just… we did have a Mobility Mixer last night in Seattle.
46 00:08:13.660 --> 00:08:17.890 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Which I think was pretty successful, but do you want to highlight any of these other ones, Ingrid?
47 00:08:19.090 --> 00:08:29.009 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Yeah, I mean, I think the list in many ways speaks for itself, Michael, but we did have a great open Mobility Mixer in Seattle last night. Thanks for those of you who were able to come.
48 00:08:29.010 --> 00:08:46.859 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Open Mobility mixers are an awesome way for us to make the… all the virtual work we do together, real and, live and in person in a very, kind of, low-key, relaxed environment. I will point out that we have another one coming up.
49 00:08:46.860 --> 00:09:00.989 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): In September on the 16th in Denver. And actually, you'll have all three of us, Michael, Aylene, and myself will be there. And, great opportunity if you're in the Denver area around, September 16th, please come and join us.
50 00:09:00.990 --> 00:09:19.459 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): We love to do these in different locations, bringing together the OMF community, like I said, in just, an easy-to-attend, but, but fun and, and engaging, way. So, look for, more open Mobility mixers in the future, but, Denver on the 16th.
51 00:09:19.460 --> 00:09:33.910 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Excited about the, OMF Academy sessions coming up. More work that you'll hear about in the future. We've got some really exciting, crash data API work with the City of Amsterdam and the country of,
52 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:49.399 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): excuse me, the Netherlands, and related to the use of the latest version of MDS. So, more to come on that in the future. And then, of course, have to point out the OMF Summit at Comotion in Los Angeles.
53 00:09:49.400 --> 00:09:55.899 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Our kind of signature in-person event that we do in partnership with, with Comotion, November 17th.
54 00:09:55.900 --> 00:09:57.489 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Through 19th…
55 00:09:57.490 --> 00:10:16.149 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): have some really great programming lined up that's a part of the OMF Summit programming from the return of our really popular, digital infrastructure walking tour of downtown LA. Thanks to Aylene for organizing that for us.
56 00:10:16.150 --> 00:10:33.489 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): great opportunity to feature the actual implementation and real-world deployment of many of our members and the digital infrastructure-related work that you all are doing. So join us for that in LA in November.
57 00:10:33.490 --> 00:10:34.749 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Alright, Michael, thanks.
58 00:10:35.030 --> 00:10:52.069 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Great, yeah, thanks for that overview. We have a lot going on, even a lot in Europe coming up soon, and see you all in Denver, and as Aylene said in the chat, you don't have to be an OMF member to attend any of our mixers. You can feel free to show up. So, see you there if you're able to come.
59 00:10:53.100 --> 00:11:06.400 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): All right, I'm gonna hand it over to Seattle to talk about how they delivered seamless trips during FIFA events, and keep in mind, at the end of this presentation, we'll have a Q&A with them.
60 00:11:06.660 --> 00:11:14.010 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): But also, after that, if you used MDS in any way for either managing your
61 00:11:14.010 --> 00:11:30.390 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): your city using MDS, or your fleets of vehicles as a company using MDS. Keep that in mind for the end, and you can share out how you did that with the group, if you want to talk about that. So, we'd appreciate it, and I'll send it over to Seattle.
62 00:11:31.450 --> 00:11:56.439 Armand Shahbazian - Seattle DOT: Thanks, Michael. Hi, everyone. Armand Shahbazian. I'm the Electric and Automated Mobility Policy Advisor at Seattle DOT in the Mobility Solutions team, and I am really excited to introduce Austin from our team, who will be giving this presentation. Austin's been an intern on our team for a few years. He has great credentials, was pursuing a master's in Civil Engineering and
63 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:21.030 Armand Shahbazian - Seattle DOT: urban planning, so we were really grateful to have his expertise on our team throughout his graduate studies. And we're very sad that Austin will be graduating. Well, he already graduated, but he'll be rolling off our team soon, so, we're very thrilled for Austin, as he moves on in his career, but he has really made such a great impact, and, especially during World Cup.
64 00:12:21.030 --> 00:12:34.080 Armand Shahbazian - Seattle DOT: Where he'll be sharing more about all of the great success that we've had, definitely in part to his work, to make it happen. So with that, I will pass it off to Austin for the presentation.
65 00:12:35.370 --> 00:12:39.820 Austin Vigesaa: Okay, hello everybody, I'm gonna go ahead and share my screen now.
66 00:12:40.610 --> 00:12:42.810 Austin Vigesaa: Let's see… Zoom…
67 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:55.949 Austin Vigesaa: Perfect. Okay, can everybody see my screen?
68 00:12:56.280 --> 00:12:57.960 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Yeah, looks… Goodbye.
69 00:12:58.350 --> 00:13:14.760 Austin Vigesaa: Yeah, so thank you, Armand, for the great introduction. As he said, my name's Austin, I've been with SDOT for 3 years on the Shared Micro Mobility team, and excited to jump in on how we used MDS in preparation for the 6 FIFA World Cup games we got in Seattle.
70 00:13:14.880 --> 00:13:19.389 Austin Vigesaa: I'll just start with a quick background,
71 00:13:19.550 --> 00:13:32.869 Austin Vigesaa: Our program manager, Becky Edmonds, and Kim Pearson is our program coordinator. Both of them are on vacation or sabbatical right now, so, excited to give you this presentation.
72 00:13:33.010 --> 00:13:33.860 Austin Vigesaa: Yeah.
73 00:13:33.910 --> 00:13:53.810 Austin Vigesaa: So, a brief history of, scooter and bike share in Seattle. It's been around in some form or another since 2014. The city permits over 20,000 micromobility devices, and currently we have one vendor and three device types, and there's kind of a short breakdown of
74 00:13:54.010 --> 00:13:57.329 Austin Vigesaa: The devices that we have at the bottom there.
75 00:13:58.170 --> 00:14:13.950 Austin Vigesaa: So, some recent highlights in the program. It's really just had explosive growth, as you can see in the chart on the right, but basically, since 2019, there's been over 370% growth, or since 20…
76 00:14:13.950 --> 00:14:23.399 Austin Vigesaa: 24, 67% growth. And last year was our highest ridership year, with over 10.5 million trips, and…
77 00:14:23.400 --> 00:14:42.469 Austin Vigesaa: In 2026, we've already done more trips than that, so we're excited for another great record-breaking year this year. There was over a million unique riders last year, and kind of want to highlight some of the equity portion of our program. Over a million of those trips were using the reduced fare program.
78 00:14:42.470 --> 00:14:46.160 Austin Vigesaa: And then this year, we hit our highest ridership day.
79 00:14:46.160 --> 00:14:51.400 Austin Vigesaa: At 87,000 rides during the US and Australia game.
80 00:14:51.990 --> 00:14:57.340 Austin Vigesaa: So, kind of in preparation for FIFA,
81 00:14:57.350 --> 00:15:14.539 Austin Vigesaa: We wanted to start installing more parking corrals throughout the city, so we kind of have two main types, these, like, on-sidewalk painted zones, and then, corrals that go in the daylighting section on the street, trying to make it safer for pedestrians crossing, and also a good location for us to park.
82 00:15:14.540 --> 00:15:17.569 Austin Vigesaa: So, our team received,
83 00:15:17.570 --> 00:15:33.150 Austin Vigesaa: funding from the state for our FIFA readiness funds, and basically with that money, we wanted to install over 200 corrals located within the stadium district and, downtown slash Pioneer Square area.
84 00:15:33.150 --> 00:15:40.970 Austin Vigesaa: But I think one of the key questions was, how do we prioritize, and how do we decide where to install all of these corrals?
85 00:15:41.800 --> 00:16:04.059 Austin Vigesaa: So, basically, we devised a prioritization matrix for installing or choosing blocks where we would install all of these, and to do this, it's basically street segment level analysis. So we're using each street segment, and then we're adding a bunch of data to each street segment to try and rank them,
86 00:16:04.090 --> 00:16:06.999 Austin Vigesaa: As far as where should we install. So…
87 00:16:07.050 --> 00:16:20.540 Austin Vigesaa: Of course, we used, scooter and bike share trip end data, so that was probably the highest weight… one of the highest weighted categories, trying to understand where trips are currently ending. And then we also added in data as far as
88 00:16:20.540 --> 00:16:39.280 Austin Vigesaa: where there will be FIFA events, so like the watch parties, the stadium, stuff like that. And then some kind of fun stuff that was added into the dataset that made it easier for our field crews, so they don't have to go around looking, on street segments that didn't have the possibility, as we used
89 00:16:39.280 --> 00:16:42.920 Austin Vigesaa: The curb space data set that the city uses.
90 00:16:42.920 --> 00:16:49.160 Austin Vigesaa: To understand, like, is there space on the street for a corral?
91 00:16:49.220 --> 00:17:08.889 Austin Vigesaa: So, being like, okay, there is parking on the street, or there's not parking, it's a travel lane, to understand, okay, there is room to actually put an on-street corral here. If there wasn't room, then it got, like, a big negative number in there to try and lower it in the ranking, as far as if there was space. Same with sidewalk, it,
92 00:17:08.890 --> 00:17:13.559 Austin Vigesaa: Using the sidewalk data, the sidewalk width, to understand if there was room for a corral.
93 00:17:13.609 --> 00:17:22.419 Austin Vigesaa: And then we used the Seattle's Equity Index as well, in these, and then all those categories got weighted, combined.
94 00:17:22.540 --> 00:17:29.479 Austin Vigesaa: And basically everything was put into quantiles and ranked against each other.
95 00:17:30.310 --> 00:17:34.640 Austin Vigesaa: So with that, we got this big map, ranking all of the
96 00:17:34.880 --> 00:17:52.489 Austin Vigesaa: all of the street segments, and then we worked with a consultant and our in-house teams to install, as I said, over 200 corrals, and I'll go back one page just to show them again. They're very cool, some of them have nice artwork, and yeah.
97 00:17:53.450 --> 00:17:57.729 Austin Vigesaa: So, that was just one part of preparation for game day. I think…
98 00:17:57.860 --> 00:18:12.940 Austin Vigesaa: the corrals are great for parking the devices throughout the city, but for the game itself, we knew there was going to be a lot more demand in a much smaller area. So, to kind of understand
99 00:18:14.150 --> 00:18:27.119 Austin Vigesaa: or get ready for that, we came up with the idea of parking valet, so you can take your devices to a specific location, and Lime staff will end your trip for you, and
100 00:18:28.120 --> 00:18:34.560 Austin Vigesaa: basically, they just park it in this location. So to kind of estimate…
101 00:18:34.610 --> 00:18:50.250 Austin Vigesaa: how much space and how many devices we're expecting. We used, demand from other large events in the city of Seattle, so there was a Sounders-Miami game that had, soccer game that had almost 70,000 attendees.
102 00:18:50.250 --> 00:18:56.269 Austin Vigesaa: And then same with Mariners and Supercross and, some football games.
103 00:18:56.270 --> 00:19:05.449 Austin Vigesaa: Basically, we looked at the total attendance, and then the share of that attendance that was taken through micromobility, and then also broke it up by device type.
104 00:19:05.610 --> 00:19:15.160 Austin Vigesaa: And then through that, we calculated the actual space requirements for each device, and we came up with, like, a total amount of space we need
105 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:31.410 Austin Vigesaa: Within the operational zone of FIFA to park the expected number of devices that came out to roughly 35,000 square feet of space. So with this number, we needed to find locations and decide where they would go.
106 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:35.900 Austin Vigesaa: I think I skipped a slide here.
107 00:19:39.130 --> 00:19:42.270 Austin Vigesaa: Here we go. Yeah, basically…
108 00:19:42.550 --> 00:19:56.119 Austin Vigesaa: using the MDS data, during the trips that ended in the stadium zone during previous events, we could find the routing information. So…
109 00:19:56.150 --> 00:20:05.469 Austin Vigesaa: What bike routes or what roads people are using to get to the stadium, and that helped us find the locations for,
110 00:20:05.630 --> 00:20:25.109 Austin Vigesaa: for siting the corrals. So, basically, like, 20… almost 25% of trips come through the waterfront bike lanes, which is a big, piece of new infrastructure that got installed recently. So understanding where everybody is coming from helped us pick the actual locations that,
111 00:20:26.110 --> 00:20:28.700 Austin Vigesaa: The corrals would go, or the,
112 00:20:29.950 --> 00:20:39.939 Austin Vigesaa: the valet locations would go. It ended up being a little different from this map, this was kind of an early iteration, but as you can see, we're mapping
113 00:20:39.940 --> 00:20:53.900 Austin Vigesaa: The percentage of people going through each route and finding a suitable location that's on the bike infrastructure that is near the stadium to kind of absorb each of the sheds from the many bike lanes in the city.
114 00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:59.549 Austin Vigesaa: Let's go back to this slide.
115 00:20:59.750 --> 00:21:08.009 Austin Vigesaa: Yeah, so just a little bit about the data. We are expecting about 6,000 trip ends in the stadium.
116 00:21:08.010 --> 00:21:21.699 Austin Vigesaa: Each day, and planned for 5 parking valet locations with a special geofence, which I'll talk about in a little bit. And then vendors and the SDOT staff would be foot patrolling, making sure everything's okay.
117 00:21:21.700 --> 00:21:26.390 Austin Vigesaa: And then in the Lime app specifically, they had match…
118 00:21:26.390 --> 00:21:32.270 Austin Vigesaa: Day-specific messaging saying, like, if you're going to the game, please find a parking valet location.
119 00:21:33.410 --> 00:21:41.439 Austin Vigesaa: Yeah, a little bit about the game day geofencing. Basically, we added a big mandatory parking zone over…
120 00:21:41.550 --> 00:21:59.199 Austin Vigesaa: the entire stadium area, which means you couldn't end your trip unless it was at one of the specific valet locations. There's also some no-operation zones and slow zones, trying to keep everybody safe in the pedestrian-only areas near the stadium. And…
121 00:21:59.780 --> 00:22:15.709 Austin Vigesaa: as I said, this kind of changed a lot throughout the six games. We got feedback from SPD, the Seattle Police Department, and other departments as far as, hey, we'd like the slow zone to change a little bit here, we'd like the no operations zone to move a little bit.
122 00:22:15.710 --> 00:22:20.050 Austin Vigesaa: And I guess one of the big learnings from this is that
123 00:22:20.160 --> 00:22:39.290 Austin Vigesaa: Our vendor, at the moment, currently doesn't ingest the policy API directly, which has the geofence in it, so it kind of became a game of trying to make sure that they ingested the data correctly, because they do it manually, because that has tripped us up a little bit in the past.
124 00:22:40.630 --> 00:22:45.430 Austin Vigesaa: So, yeah, a little bit about game day,
125 00:22:46.520 --> 00:23:03.360 Austin Vigesaa: it was, as I said, the second game, the USA-Australia game, was our highest ridership day ever, 87,000 trips. Over the six game days, there was, almost 400,000 trips, and we were averaging, about
126 00:23:03.560 --> 00:23:20.089 Austin Vigesaa: 5,600 trips at… trip ends at valets during game time, which, is very close to the original estimate of 6,000. Some were way over, and some were a little bit under some of the less popular games. I also kind of want to call out,
127 00:23:20.840 --> 00:23:27.920 Austin Vigesaa: the significant ridership we had compared to other modes. So, in the graph, you can see bus.
128 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:47.339 Austin Vigesaa: the bus and the light rail both did, a little over $1.5 million. We did close to 400,000, but then compared to, like, water taxi, contracted services, and streetcar, you can see that this system is moving a lot more people than the other, other modes.
129 00:23:47.820 --> 00:23:54.790 Austin Vigesaa: And then, just wanted to share some more, more photos from the event. Lots of, great
130 00:23:55.020 --> 00:24:10.210 Austin Vigesaa: comments and feedback from the public. They… they liked everything was kept tidy. We handed out… our line handed out a few thousand helmets that were given out as people were leaving the stadium. We had some great signage. Yeah.
131 00:24:10.920 --> 00:24:16.810 Austin Vigesaa: So… So, quick presentation, I'm happy to open it up for questions now.
132 00:24:18.460 --> 00:24:23.590 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Yeah, good job, Austin. This is, impressive. I left some comments about some of
133 00:24:23.890 --> 00:24:35.070 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): the great use of MDS historic trip data for events to plan where people were coming from specifically, and to set up those corrals and the valet areas, that's…
134 00:24:35.210 --> 00:24:40.480 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Really nice use case for why a city might need MDS trip data.
135 00:24:41.310 --> 00:24:47.340 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And so I'll go through… you could look at the chat too, but I'll just sort of flag some of the questions here.
136 00:24:47.570 --> 00:24:58.009 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Pamela from LADOT said, how much funding did you get from the state, and how much does each parking spot cost per installation? And I will say…
137 00:24:58.420 --> 00:24:59.740 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Armand…
138 00:25:00.700 --> 00:25:11.509 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): I think Armand had a bit of a… oh, stefan had an answer of FIFA funds provided to the city. The shared Mobility Team used about $600,000 for the project, so anything else to add?
139 00:25:12.690 --> 00:25:16.120 Austin Vigesaa: Yeah, that's the amount, nothing else there.
140 00:25:16.580 --> 00:25:17.400 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Okay.
141 00:25:18.060 --> 00:25:23.230 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Let's see… next,
142 00:25:23.230 --> 00:25:31.029 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Is it… and Austin, I don't know if… is it… is it… if somebody wants to know, generally, how much these, the… the… the…
143 00:25:31.750 --> 00:25:44.740 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): corrals cost to install? Do you have a… do you have a sense of… is there a… a range? Probably… it's probably not a flat figure for each one, but is there a general range for what the… what it costs the city to do that?
144 00:25:45.030 --> 00:25:58.980 Austin Vigesaa: Yeah, so the cost for these has been coming down a lot. I think originally the way we were going about it ended up us paying a bunch of overhead to a different department to kind of do the engineering work. So the initial ones were very expensive.
145 00:25:59.180 --> 00:26:13.949 Austin Vigesaa: In the tens of thousands per, but I think we've gotten them down to around 5,000 to 7,000 per each individual corral, but that covers all of the siting and engineering work and installation with the SDOT crews.
146 00:26:15.020 --> 00:26:20.049 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And is that… does that sort of corral… are we talking about, like, the on-street daylighting area?
147 00:26:20.560 --> 00:26:29.590 Austin Vigesaa: Yeah, it's, yeah, on-street daylighting area, so that also covers the bike racks, the curb stops, the flex posts, the paint, all that stuff.
148 00:26:30.360 --> 00:26:34.649 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And then, Stefan also said,
149 00:26:34.880 --> 00:26:38.920 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): That you contributed funding from vendor fees
150 00:26:39.050 --> 00:26:47.690 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): activities also included extensive engagement with community in certain areas, so, does that sound right? Yeah, and stefan, if you want to talk some more.
151 00:26:47.910 --> 00:26:48.510 Austin Vigesaa: Yeah.
152 00:26:48.510 --> 00:26:49.110 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: Yeah.
153 00:26:49.520 --> 00:26:58.369 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: Hello everyone, Stefan winkler, I'm the Mobility Solutions Manager, so this group falls within my, within my purview.
154 00:26:58.940 --> 00:27:08.440 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: the funding has actually come down a little bit more. It really depends, like, going back to the funding, it depends on where it's going and the amount of engagement that's involved.
155 00:27:08.590 --> 00:27:25.259 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: these areas that we're trying to put parking into, specifically, like, Pioneer Square and areas that have a lot of competition, specifically around parking, like vehicle parking, there's a healthy amount of community
156 00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:36.619 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: thoughts around it. And if you want to, you can see a little bit of that if you kind of go to the interwebs and, look at some of the conversations around the
157 00:27:36.870 --> 00:27:38.400 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: the,
158 00:27:38.530 --> 00:27:44.690 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: engagement they were having with the Preservation Board, the historical preservation boards. So that really kind of…
159 00:27:44.830 --> 00:27:56.270 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: raises the investment level for us, and the time, the amount of time that is put into it. Whereas other areas where it might be in the furniture zone, the areas where there's, like,
160 00:27:56.510 --> 00:27:58.060 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: You know, the…
161 00:27:58.450 --> 00:28:13.069 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: the benches and the trees and such, in less contested areas might be, not… not take as long, as well as not be as expensive. But, on average, it's, you know, we're rounding and…
162 00:28:13.150 --> 00:28:18.720 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: for including maintenance and long-term under $3K on average for that.
163 00:28:18.940 --> 00:28:20.930 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: That ends up, kind of…
164 00:28:21.050 --> 00:28:23.009 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: Varying, depending on the type of
165 00:28:23.350 --> 00:28:34.119 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: type of parking corral. If it's just paint, it's much cheaper. If it's also racks, it can be more expensive, and especially if we're looking at putting it into the, daylighted areas.
166 00:28:36.270 --> 00:28:39.770 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Great, yeah, thanks for that extra background.
167 00:28:40.370 --> 00:28:44.910 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): We'll take the hand raising, and then I'll hit the chat back, so applaud.
168 00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:51.850 Vladimir Gallegos (LADOT-Commercial Rideshare & Mobiliy)): Yeah, question to Seattle, I guess. So I saw some of the… those parking spaces were…
169 00:28:52.130 --> 00:28:53.530 Vladimir Gallegos (LADOT-Commercial Rideshare & Mobiliy)): We're, like, on the street.
170 00:28:53.700 --> 00:29:08.269 Vladimir Gallegos (LADOT-Commercial Rideshare & Mobiliy)): And what's… what was the… what was just the battle for that? What was the story for that? Was it easy? Was it… was it… how many of those do you have? What's kind of the input that you get from community? Like, what's your process for that? I know that you had the matrix.
171 00:29:08.410 --> 00:29:11.249 Vladimir Gallegos (LADOT-Commercial Rideshare & Mobiliy)): But… You know, how did that get weighed in?
172 00:29:11.780 --> 00:29:18.190 Austin Vigesaa: Yeah, so, are you talking specifically about the corrals or the valet locations that were on street?
173 00:29:18.190 --> 00:29:27.450 Vladimir Gallegos (LADOT-Commercial Rideshare & Mobiliy)): I guess the corrals on the street, anything that, like, you had to be, like… I can imagine community groups going like, that could be a parking space, you know, or how dare you sacrifice a parking space for…
174 00:29:27.600 --> 00:29:35.730 Vladimir Gallegos (LADOT-Commercial Rideshare & Mobiliy)): For this, because, you know, in the end, there's a lot of space in our cities, but it's not for micromobility and for other things, right? So…
175 00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:38.360 Austin Vigesaa: Yeah, I would say,
176 00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:49.089 Austin Vigesaa: Excluding Pioneer Square, which I'll get back to in a minute, there was definitely some conversation with businesses nearby, saying that it's used for parking.
177 00:29:49.090 --> 00:29:59.120 Austin Vigesaa: But, Washington State has the daylighting law, so you're actually not allowed to park within 20 or 30 feet of an intersection, depending on how it's, signalized.
178 00:29:59.500 --> 00:30:16.130 Austin Vigesaa: So, I think part of it was just reminding people that that's not a legal parking space currently, and then that it's also a safety improvement, trying to make sure that cars aren't there so you can see the crosswalk, better, and people about to use it.
179 00:30:16.300 --> 00:30:22.099 Austin Vigesaa: I think the real challenge was in Pioneer Square with the historic district. There was kind of…
180 00:30:22.180 --> 00:30:37.400 Austin Vigesaa: a lot of back and forth on the design of the corrals themselves, as far as not fitting in with the historic character of the neighborhood. And those spaces are definitely used as load zones.
181 00:30:37.810 --> 00:30:50.879 Austin Vigesaa: So that's something that… we had to cut back the number of corrals within the historic district, in order to get approval for the… at least some in Pioneer Square.
182 00:30:51.280 --> 00:30:56.240 Austin Vigesaa: Yeah, Stefan, maybe you want to chime in a little bit on this as well?
183 00:30:57.240 --> 00:31:16.550 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: Yeah, that's really good context, Austin, thank you. Just to add a little bit more color, the team was also coordinating with the Vision Zero team, which, has been moving across the city and, looking for places where there's high pedestrian Armand, finding ways to,
184 00:31:16.620 --> 00:31:23.260 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: kind of prescribed solutions. And of course, there's many different types of solutions. This is a really good one.
185 00:31:23.380 --> 00:31:26.000 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: And to Austin's point.
186 00:31:26.010 --> 00:31:40.469 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: Yes, this diluted area, you're technically not allowed to park in it, but often what we would hear in community feedback was that, well, people knew that, but they still parked there, because they knew they
187 00:31:40.470 --> 00:31:52.419 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: usually didn't get a ticket. And so, it still felt like there was… they were losing something. And of course, businesses were some of the largest proponents around that kind of concept.
188 00:31:52.490 --> 00:31:59.060 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: So yeah, I mean, it's… it's a slow process. Anytime you touch anything with the dominant
189 00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:03.770 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: Device vehicle that's out there and being used right now, being cars and such.
190 00:32:03.900 --> 00:32:15.690 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: To kind of… it's… we're making incremental steps. We would prefer to move much quicker, but, you know, we, work with community, and that obviously kind of
191 00:32:16.110 --> 00:32:26.549 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: Makes things last a little bit longer, so we just kind of have to move at the pace of that trust that we're building with community and continuing to bring them into the conversation.
192 00:32:26.720 --> 00:32:44.619 stefan w, seattle department of transportation: And, working with the Vision Zero team, and with other construction projects that are happening, if there's an opportunity, then we can pop in there. So, it's really more of a long-term vision. We just used the FIFA World Cup as a catalyst to get, like, a large amount done within a specific period of time.
193 00:32:46.860 --> 00:32:47.530 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Great.
194 00:32:47.800 --> 00:33:03.639 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Thank you for this great conversation. I'm going to go back to the chat. So, Jared from San Francisco Public Works says, curious about the painted micromobility zones and enforcement. How is enforcement coordinated with the vendor?
195 00:33:04.910 --> 00:33:13.330 Austin Vigesaa: Yeah, so, the current system, as far as enforcement of parking in the city,
196 00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:29.089 Austin Vigesaa: is me and the other interns on the team will go out, a couple of times each week, kind of walking around each neighborhood in the city and taking pictures of devices that are mis-parked. Then this gets sent to the vendor, and then they can issue,
197 00:33:29.170 --> 00:33:34.859 Austin Vigesaa: Parking tickets, or fines, more specifically, and warnings, depending on how many offenses.
198 00:33:35.020 --> 00:33:49.389 Austin Vigesaa: The vendor also has trip end photos that, they can issue warnings and fines through their process. And then additionally, the city uses Find It Fix-It, which is kind of like, 411 or 311.
199 00:33:49.390 --> 00:33:50.150 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): No.
200 00:33:50.450 --> 00:34:03.129 Austin Vigesaa: Basically, citizens can report devices that are misparked, and then the vendor has a certain amount of time to respond to move or correct the incorrectly parked device.
201 00:34:04.260 --> 00:34:05.619 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Are you… I'm wondering.
202 00:34:05.620 --> 00:34:06.460 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Quick follow-up.
203 00:34:06.460 --> 00:34:07.279 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Yeah, go ahead, AJ.
204 00:34:07.280 --> 00:34:19.010 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): in the areas of the city that have these corrals, Austin, does a user have to park it in the… end the trip in the corral, or is… is…
205 00:34:19.010 --> 00:34:29.600 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): I guess, is there an incentive or disincentive to do so? Is there any way to confirm that the… I mean, you mentioned the photo, that the trip was ended in a corral?
206 00:34:29.820 --> 00:34:44.120 Austin Vigesaa: Yeah, so I guess there's a couple of things that touch all of your points. Currently, there's not, like, a zone downtown covers the whole downtown, where we say you have to park in a corral.
207 00:34:44.120 --> 00:34:51.779 Austin Vigesaa: I think part of that decision-making to not introducing that is because there's just not a high enough density of corrals downtown.
208 00:34:51.780 --> 00:35:10.659 Austin Vigesaa: So that was definitely one of our concerns. All of the corrals are put in the vendor's app, saying, like, oh, here's a parking location, please park here. As far as having the mandatory parking zones like we did for game day, those only exist in a few spots. The one around the stadium is still there.
209 00:35:10.660 --> 00:35:23.540 Austin Vigesaa: Most of the light rail stations in the city have, mandatory parking zones, and dedicated and signed parking locations. And then, kind of on the incentive,
210 00:35:23.540 --> 00:35:36.200 Austin Vigesaa: working with King County Metro and Sound Transit, there's currently an incentive program where if you ride a micromobility device to a light rail station or some bus stops.
211 00:35:36.200 --> 00:35:45.939 Austin Vigesaa: and end it at the, signed corral or parking location. You get, a couple of dollars, enough to get,
212 00:35:46.120 --> 00:35:57.630 Austin Vigesaa: A bus or light rail pass, and then if you redeem that pass within 24 hours, basically meaning it's like a first-last-mile connection, with transit and micromobility.
213 00:35:57.680 --> 00:36:10.960 Austin Vigesaa: If you redeem that, then you also get $7 off your next micromobility trip. So, trying to incentivize people to use the corrals at the station, and incentivizing the first last mile trip behavior.
214 00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:21.589 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Of course, everything you just mentioned, and even some of the hypotheticals can be defined in the MDS policy that you would publish out, and you mentioned that
215 00:36:21.720 --> 00:36:38.859 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): you had a geofencing through MDS policy. So I guess my questions are, did you include corral locations and or rules about parking near them as part of your MDS policy push? And then what was the barrier for adoption of that?
216 00:36:41.850 --> 00:36:58.439 Austin Vigesaa: So, for the MDS policy, all the geofences that are, like, permanent in the city are in there. We're not putting the temporary geofence changes in the, in that at the moment, and I think part of that is just,
217 00:36:58.530 --> 00:37:13.540 Austin Vigesaa: the way that Lime likes to ingest it at the moment is we'll just send them the files directly through email instead of through the policy, so it can be… they're very fast at responding, usually, but it's a little bit clunky and a little bit slower, so…
218 00:37:13.900 --> 00:37:18.980 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Okay, and are you sending the MDS policy file, the actual, like, JSON file, or something different?
219 00:37:19.230 --> 00:37:23.179 Austin Vigesaa: On our backend, we do everything through ArcGIS. Oh, okay.
220 00:37:23.180 --> 00:37:23.690 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Okay.
221 00:37:23.690 --> 00:37:26.910 Austin Vigesaa: exporting it from ArcGIS and sending it over.
222 00:37:27.150 --> 00:37:31.329 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Okay, great. Next question…
223 00:37:31.530 --> 00:37:39.529 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): It was about pickup, drop-off for Ridehale, and Armand said that you weren't able to implement it this time, but you're looking at it for the future.
224 00:37:39.860 --> 00:37:44.780 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): What is the, current…
225 00:37:45.100 --> 00:37:54.900 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): total vehicle count and average utilization, and the answer from Lyme was 15,000, roughly, and the total vehicle…
226 00:37:55.240 --> 00:38:00.910 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): D, is that demand is nearly 3, is that 3 trips per day? Or no, what is that?
227 00:38:01.150 --> 00:38:03.949 Austin Vigesaa: Yeah, roughly 3 trips per vehicle per day.
228 00:38:06.180 --> 00:38:08.899 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And there's a link to, Seymour information there.
229 00:38:09.130 --> 00:38:15.730 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): For the trip data, did you get exact routing of the trip, or was there just an assumption based on start and end points?
230 00:38:16.090 --> 00:38:18.960 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): For, I guess, historic and or during the event.
231 00:38:19.390 --> 00:38:20.920 Austin Vigesaa: Yeah,
232 00:38:21.470 --> 00:38:29.139 Austin Vigesaa: through our, our… one of our other vendors' Ride Report, we were able to get, basically…
233 00:38:29.770 --> 00:38:36.440 Austin Vigesaa: the actual routing that people took, for trips that ended in the stadium. Basically, we got the last
234 00:38:36.550 --> 00:38:46.529 Austin Vigesaa: quarter mile or half mile of people's routes that ended their trip specifically in the stadium zone. So that was that map that I had pulled up earlier.
235 00:38:47.180 --> 00:39:01.840 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Great, yeah, and that's typical, so MDS will send over, the Lime or a vendor will send via MDS the trip information breadcrumbs, usually to a vendor, and then you can ask or pull out the data you need, but it does come through in MDS.
236 00:39:02.210 --> 00:39:16.970 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Armand shared a blog post, and some information about daylighting, and bike-to-scoot to transit information, and then maybe the last question in the chat is, how many painted sidewalk parking zones were installed?
237 00:39:19.690 --> 00:39:39.400 Austin Vigesaa: I don't know the exact number off the top of my head, but there was definitely more, in at least this first 200 corral push, more sidewalk zones than on-street zones, and I think that's something at a program level, we're hoping to move more towards on-street zones, because scooters aren't allowed to ride on the sidewalks, but…
238 00:39:39.510 --> 00:39:45.930 Austin Vigesaa: If I had to guess, maybe 125 to 150 were on sidewalk zones.
239 00:39:47.510 --> 00:39:48.180 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Wow.
240 00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:49.710 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): That's good.
241 00:39:50.250 --> 00:39:54.789 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Any final, questions for the Seattle people that are here?
242 00:40:01.380 --> 00:40:02.170 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Alright.
243 00:40:03.450 --> 00:40:04.130 Vladimir Gallegos (LADOT-Commercial Rideshare & Mobiliy)): Just…
244 00:40:04.130 --> 00:40:19.909 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Great, great presentation. We will, get the slides from Seattle and incorporate them into our slide deck, so when we send out the notes and the recording, you can see their slides as well, some great pictures and stats in there. Thank you for putting all that together and for the presentation. Great work.
245 00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:36.919 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): All right, for the next 15 minutes, we have set aside time for you, anyone on the call, to share how you might have used MDS in any way for FIFA World Cup activities or events. Is there anyone that would like to share
246 00:40:37.350 --> 00:40:40.700 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Links, slide, talk, talk about it.
247 00:40:41.050 --> 00:40:44.740 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): We'd love to hear from you, and hear how… what other people were doing.
248 00:40:57.990 --> 00:41:02.129 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): I'm sure there's some other… MDS use out there.
249 00:41:02.830 --> 00:41:05.010 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): For World Cup events.
250 00:41:05.740 --> 00:41:06.850 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Tony?
251 00:41:08.570 --> 00:41:27.730 Tony Geara: Hello, everyone, and hey, Michael. My question is a little general, so I had asked it earlier when it was some of the MDS data for micro-mobility, but I'm kind of curious as to the MDS data that is there for TNCs, or, you know, ride-hailing
252 00:41:27.730 --> 00:41:37.459 Tony Geara: or robotaxis. Were any of the cities where this was deployed, did they have, like, I know we have some reps here from Waymo, do they already have Waymo, and it's there?
253 00:41:37.720 --> 00:41:40.739 Tony Geara: Any investigation or ideas around
254 00:41:41.010 --> 00:41:54.590 Tony Geara: how, like, MDS can be used to do something similar to those other modes, you know, whether it's ride-hailing or, you know, any other kind of mode of transportation.
255 00:41:55.880 --> 00:42:03.349 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Yeah, great question. I will point out that… I'll try to find a link here to share.
256 00:42:03.400 --> 00:42:16.000 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): But, for the last few years, MDS has been much bigger than micromobility, so it's already supporting things like different passenger services, taxis, DNCs, car share.
257 00:42:16.130 --> 00:42:33.539 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): sidewalk delivery robots, and then with 2.1, there's been a lot more other things that are supported, like delivery of all types, food goods, etc. So, I'll just share… this is the actual spec information about the passenger mode.
258 00:42:33.640 --> 00:42:49.050 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And you can see some pictures there, and what it… the sorts of trips it supports, and information that can come through specific to TNCs and autonomous, ridehale.
259 00:42:49.660 --> 00:43:04.509 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): So, that's… that's what we have, and I'll look for another link, but is anyone else on the call? I know that, I know LA DOT is getting information in MDS format from taxis. Some of that is also…
260 00:43:04.690 --> 00:43:14.909 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Uber, through the taxi platform, sending MDS data as well. Anyone else want to comment on their use of MDS for passenger modes?
261 00:43:14.910 --> 00:43:39.589 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Michael, I'll compliment our friends in LADOT and Waymo for the work they've done, not necessarily around the FIFA matches, but around other special events in LA, where they've used MDS to create geofences that have been used by Waymo to prevent their vehicles from conflicting with those special events, those kind of temporary
262 00:43:39.590 --> 00:43:55.480 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): do not enter areas around open streets events, like the Ciclovias and other types of events that, LA has hosted. And that's been done on a voluntary basis, just the city working in close collaboration with the operators like Waymo to put those
263 00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:59.869 Andrew Glass Hastings (OMF): Digital fences in place, so… good example from, from LA.
264 00:44:02.410 --> 00:44:15.800 Tony Geara: Thanks, Andrew. Thanks, Michael. This is very helpful. Any other kind of ideas or examples, really kind of help understand, you know, what's the art of the possible, and how can it be refined, and, you know, etc. But thank you.
265 00:44:17.570 --> 00:44:31.270 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Yeah, I'm looking through our blog post. We have… we actually have a blog post coming out this week that'll highlight some of this a little bit more, and then we have some older blog posts that has been around a while of using MDS for,
266 00:44:31.680 --> 00:44:38.189 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): for passenger services. But I'll find that and, share it as well.
267 00:44:38.460 --> 00:44:41.720 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Alright.
268 00:44:43.510 --> 00:44:46.969 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Any other questions, in general, or…
269 00:44:47.580 --> 00:44:52.590 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Does anyone else want to share about their MDS and FIFA usage?
270 00:44:55.330 --> 00:44:59.850 Lawrence Fan (CurbIQ / Arcadis): Yeah, so, hi everyone, this is Lawrence from
271 00:45:00.160 --> 00:45:03.550 Lawrence Fan (CurbIQ / Arcadis): Curve IQ and Arcadis. So…
272 00:45:05.050 --> 00:45:21.190 Lawrence Fan (CurbIQ / Arcadis): we didn't use MDS directly, but Arcadis did a lot of work for FIFA in Vancouver, so actually I was, part of that as well, like, I went to Vancouver, to help out with, like, their traffic plan and all that.
273 00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:26.370 Lawrence Fan (CurbIQ / Arcadis): And… one experience I had was, like, the Uber
274 00:45:26.540 --> 00:45:29.620 Lawrence Fan (CurbIQ / Arcadis): Hiccup and drop-off was, like.
275 00:45:30.510 --> 00:45:33.960 Lawrence Fan (CurbIQ / Arcadis): Was a little bit chaotic, and…
276 00:45:34.420 --> 00:45:50.169 Lawrence Fan (CurbIQ / Arcadis): basically, like, Ubers… there was only, like, one place where you could pick up Ubers and Rideshare, and then, like, after the match, there'd be, like, people waiting there, and then Uber would come, and then they would have, like, specific, like, lanes, and
277 00:45:51.080 --> 00:45:59.840 Lawrence Fan (CurbIQ / Arcadis): they would have to, like, call out, or, like, tell the riders, like, hey, I'm in this lane, like, come find me. But then, like, it… that…
278 00:46:00.730 --> 00:46:03.259 Lawrence Fan (CurbIQ / Arcadis): Wasn't always, like, clear to people, but…
279 00:46:05.190 --> 00:46:09.500 Lawrence Fan (CurbIQ / Arcadis): I just thought, like, the presentation about, like, using the MDS data to, like.
280 00:46:10.500 --> 00:46:16.349 Lawrence Fan (CurbIQ / Arcadis): see, like, where everyone was coming from was really interesting, like, maybe, like, MDS could have been used to, like, improve, like.
281 00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:19.880 Lawrence Fan (CurbIQ / Arcadis): The placement of those…
282 00:46:20.010 --> 00:46:26.719 Lawrence Fan (CurbIQ / Arcadis): the Uber, Rideshare pickup, like, maybe they could have had more than one,
283 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:29.980 Lawrence Fan (CurbIQ / Arcadis): Depending on, like, the direction that people were going.
284 00:46:30.600 --> 00:46:36.199 Lawrence Fan (CurbIQ / Arcadis): I don't know, I'm just thinking out loud there, but, yeah, just thought I'd share my experience sooner.
285 00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:37.350 Lawrence Fan (CurbIQ / Arcadis): Yep.
286 00:46:37.350 --> 00:46:38.130 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Thank you.
287 00:46:43.960 --> 00:46:48.059 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And I put a few more links in the chat to some blog posts.
288 00:46:55.880 --> 00:46:59.759 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Any other, comments or sharing that people would like to do?
289 00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:20.010 Vladimir Gallegos (LADOT-Commercial Rideshare & Mobiliy)): I think we have something, actually, on the Elias side. Jose, I don't know, is there a way for him to be able to share his… just a slide?
290 00:47:21.100 --> 00:47:21.550 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Yes, sir.
291 00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:22.470 Vladimir Gallegos (LADOT-Commercial Rideshare & Mobiliy)): Yeah.
292 00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:25.200 Vladimir Gallegos (LADOT-Commercial Rideshare & Mobiliy)): Jose, can you hear me?
293 00:47:25.200 --> 00:47:30.410 Jose Elias: Yeah, Gary, yeah, I think… Okay, I got it, I see the link now, yeah, let me pull that up.
294 00:47:30.410 --> 00:47:30.920 Vladimir Gallegos (LADOT-Commercial Rideshare & Mobiliy)): Awesome.
295 00:47:34.550 --> 00:47:35.500 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Thanks, y'all.
296 00:47:36.770 --> 00:47:38.330 Vladimir Gallegos (LADOT-Commercial Rideshare & Mobiliy)): Jose, can you go back for us?
297 00:47:39.280 --> 00:47:42.100 Jose Elias: Yeah, I just want to see, is everybody able to see my screen?
298 00:47:42.300 --> 00:47:43.420 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Yeah, that's good.
299 00:47:43.590 --> 00:47:50.069 Jose Elias: Okay, awesome. So my name is Jose Elias, and I'm a transportation planner here at LADOT, and I manage the DOCless program.
300 00:47:50.190 --> 00:47:56.550 Jose Elias: For context, what you're looking at right now is the LA Memorial Coliseum at Expo Park.
301 00:47:56.700 --> 00:48:16.509 Jose Elias: So one of the things that I worked on for the… for the World Cup was different policies. Throughout the World Cup, we issued over 120 policies across all these different events. We had the Kick It in the Parks, we had Fan Fest, we had Fan Zones, so all this required extensive work, requiring different policies.
302 00:48:16.750 --> 00:48:26.909 Jose Elias: This one in particular, we had a mandatory parking zone for micromobility, which is within that gray box. So you are only allowed to park at these,
303 00:48:27.030 --> 00:48:46.320 Jose Elias: 6 corrals here, but the other thing that set it apart was we had an exclusion zone for Waymo, which is bounded by that orange box, and the purple shows the six, corrals, but the one thing that was also, interesting, that we had a specific pickup and drop-off zone for Rideshare, and a separate one for Waymo.
304 00:48:46.570 --> 00:48:53.670 Jose Elias: One thing that we did that was interesting, because I work this event also, so I would circulate around the…
305 00:48:53.820 --> 00:49:08.440 Jose Elias: the perimeter of the park and, like, make sure everything was, was, was in order. And what was also cool is that, from my observations, you see, the Waymos, like, actually respecting the geofence.
306 00:49:08.750 --> 00:49:19.899 Jose Elias: Outside of the borders, you see them, like, turning around, trying to avoid it. And on the opposite side, you see the TNCs, the Ubers and Lyfts dropping off.
307 00:49:19.900 --> 00:49:30.030 Jose Elias: Right here, even where it says, like, street closure, they were dropping them off. I don't know if it's just because of that human element that they were override it, or maybe they just don't see it, but…
308 00:49:30.110 --> 00:49:40.999 Jose Elias: That's the one thing I saw. Working with Waymo, they're like, yeah, let me know what the geofence is, and we'll work with you guys to avoid it. So, it's a… it's a very good working relationship. We have them, with them.
309 00:49:41.250 --> 00:49:46.969 Jose Elias: But another slide I wanted to bring up was kind of like this.
310 00:49:48.200 --> 00:50:03.629 Jose Elias: Let me see… this one kind of shows ridership on our highest day. Actually, that's the wrong date, should be the 11th. But this gives you, for context, what ridership looked like throughout the 24 hours for that day, as you see.
311 00:50:03.720 --> 00:50:16.599 Jose Elias: where they're ending the trips is right at those corrals that we implemented. A majority of the rides ended along, Figueroa Boulevard, which is our main straight, thoroughfare, all the way down here.
312 00:50:16.730 --> 00:50:30.879 Jose Elias: But also, what's interesting when you start looking at typical ridership for these types of events is not just this area right here, but it also activates the neighborhood. Like, everything out here, you start seeing the activation around neighborhoods, and…
313 00:50:30.980 --> 00:50:44.840 Jose Elias: like, what's going on over here, and it's not just around the perimeter, but just the activation. And this is a one-mile buffer, and this is… this accounts for all the start trips and end trips only within that one-mile buffer. That's when we start thinking about,
314 00:50:44.980 --> 00:50:46.439 Jose Elias: The first mile, last mile.
315 00:50:46.650 --> 00:50:49.160 Jose Elias: But, yeah, I just wanted to share that with you.
316 00:50:49.730 --> 00:50:51.399 Jose Elias: I don't know if anybody has any questions.
317 00:50:51.690 --> 00:50:55.609 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Yeah, that's good. Can you go back to that… maybe the first slide?
318 00:50:56.400 --> 00:50:56.820 Jose Elias: Sure.
319 00:50:58.160 --> 00:51:04.970 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Wait, so for these zones, when you… did you communicate this with MDS policy, or did you use a GIS layer, or both?
320 00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:14.949 Jose Elias: We did a both, because we feel like we'd like to do both, just so one is not missed. So we'll issue the policy through the MDS policy.
321 00:51:14.950 --> 00:51:26.499 Jose Elias: And then we also kick out of the shapefile, the GeoJSON, to the companies through email. That way, it's like, you can't miss it, you saw it. And also, I'll follow up with them. Are you… did you receive it? Is it implemented?
322 00:51:26.580 --> 00:51:31.770 Jose Elias: And so I give them all that within the email, and it's also within the policy API.
323 00:51:31.970 --> 00:51:34.039 Jose Elias: So we want to make sure we don't miss anything.
324 00:51:34.400 --> 00:51:50.430 Vladimir Gallegos (LADOT-Commercial Rideshare & Mobiliy)): There's a lot of value to just redundancy, but also, even every organization, there's technical people, there's non-technical people, and then maybe if they can print out this map and hand it to their staff and go like, oh, there's, like, there's something… visuals when it's necessary, technical when it's necessary. Cover all your bases.
325 00:51:51.060 --> 00:51:55.340 Jose Elias: Yeah, we noticed that sometimes the operations team doesn't talk to the technical team, or vice versa, so…
326 00:51:55.530 --> 00:51:56.400 Jose Elias: We do both.
327 00:51:57.220 --> 00:52:09.549 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Yeah, I mean, of course, like, in an ideal situation with MDS policy, you can generate a GIS map if you want, but then there's that extra step, so you're sort of doing the work for the…
328 00:52:09.580 --> 00:52:19.529 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): people that could ingest the MDS Policy API. Interesting, too, I want to point out here, you've got this sort of white-purple zone, which is
329 00:52:19.580 --> 00:52:35.849 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): basically, the way I'm reading it, and as I think you explained it, in the light purple zone, if a scooter comes in there, micromobility, they're not allowed to park anywhere except for the dark purple zones, right? So, like, once they're in there, you've got to park in one of these other zones, right?
330 00:52:36.230 --> 00:52:38.930 Jose Elias: Correct. You're going in with the purple zones, yeah.
331 00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:49.560 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And so that's… I've seen that in many cities, and MDS Policy supports that, where you can say, like, okay, if you're in this sort of area, you could set up different areas,
332 00:52:49.670 --> 00:52:59.439 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): like, in Seattle, for instance, like, if you said, if you're near one of these corrals, you have to then park in one of the corrals. And so that's a useful tool, I think, to…
333 00:52:59.680 --> 00:53:01.080 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): To get people to do that.
334 00:53:01.670 --> 00:53:14.960 Vladimir Gallegos (LADOT-Commercial Rideshare & Mobiliy)): No, so these geofences were also sent out to robot delivery, too, so we have to kind of bifurcate it all out to the different modes. It's not always the same geofence for the same… with the same rules for every mode. But it is helpful that at least we're still talking, like.
335 00:53:15.090 --> 00:53:16.810 Vladimir Gallegos (LADOT-Commercial Rideshare & Mobiliy)): you know, Esperanto or something.
336 00:53:17.730 --> 00:53:31.990 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Yeah. Yeah, and that's… that's the benefit of MDS, of course, across the modes, is you can send it all out, and… but you could still specify for specific modes, services, and or operators what you'd like, to have happen.
337 00:53:32.590 --> 00:53:52.159 Vladimir Gallegos (LADOT-Commercial Rideshare & Mobiliy)): You know, I could tell you, like, this meeting was helpful because we're learning from Seattle, and the beauty about MDS and OMF is that we're literally going, like, what? What are we looking? We have our Vision Zero person, Pamela Lee, who's part, you know, head of Vision Zero for LADOT, who's looking at our daylighting rules and, like, thinking about the stuff for the Olympics, also. So… but…
338 00:53:52.160 --> 00:54:01.980 Vladimir Gallegos (LADOT-Commercial Rideshare & Mobiliy)): So it's just, like, it's kind of like the universality of this work. We have limited staff, but, like, there is… we… thank you, Seattle, for the great presentation and conversation, because
339 00:54:02.020 --> 00:54:06.649 Vladimir Gallegos (LADOT-Commercial Rideshare & Mobiliy)): We literally are using that for other large events, and in LA is the Olympics, so…
340 00:54:10.100 --> 00:54:12.500 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): That's great. Alright, thank you.
341 00:54:13.810 --> 00:54:16.210 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): If anyone has final comments, let me know.
342 00:54:17.010 --> 00:54:27.059 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Otherwise, I'll sort of wrap us up here. Thank you to Seattle and to LA and others who commented and presented today.
343 00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:38.009 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Get involved. Our next meeting will be September 24th. We anticipate, actually, based on the steering committee's discussions, it might actually be about
344 00:54:38.100 --> 00:54:49.380 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): autonomous ride hail, and geofencing, and maybe California specifically. So it should be really interesting. Look for the email and the confirmation of that topic.
345 00:54:49.670 --> 00:54:57.689 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): In the meantime, get to know MDS and see our official MDS 2.1 release. Look at that blog post I shared out.
346 00:54:57.820 --> 00:55:09.599 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): And, let us know if there's any barriers you have to implementation. We're happy to meet with, cities and companies to talk about how you could use MDS if you're not sure.
347 00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:21.020 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): We do those calls a lot, and make sure you get everyone on our mailing list so they know about these meetings and get in touch with us if you have questions or want to become a member.
348 00:55:24.420 --> 00:55:26.149 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Alright, I'll stop sharing.
349 00:55:26.650 --> 00:55:41.869 Michael Schnuerle (OMF): Thank you all for attending today. There's a lot of other good links in the chat from Lime. Those links and the whole chat will be part of the notes, so you can find them when you get that email. But thanks, Seattle, for your presentation and your hard work.
