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**12/13/2016** | ||
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* 1.5 is out the door. Wooo. | ||
* New site org in 1.5 | ||
* Added to tasks, tutorials, and concepts | ||
* Statefulset docs fell under concepts, tutorials, and tasks. | ||
* We want to do this the same way going forward. | ||
* Template issues :( | ||
* Github issues with templates :( | ||
* They update, we break. Markdown processor breaks the site. | ||
* First update broke the site chrome. | ||
* Current change breaks how we automate page titling. | ||
* AI: | ||
* Explore Moving to using netlify to stage the site? (Jessfraz, Ddonnelly) | ||
* Fix Page title needs to be fixed. | ||
* Explore fixing templating in github pages. | ||
* Propose hiring a web-dev for the team. | ||
* TOCs | ||
* Some pages that have TOCs in flux (tools page, for example) | ||
* Should figure out a standard for organizing these pages. | ||
* Concepts (Ddonnelly) | ||
* Tasks, Tutorials (Stevepe) | ||
* Issues Triaging, Templates, Standards | ||
* [https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes.github.io/pull/1860](https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes.github.io/pull/1860) (AI: jaredb, review) | ||
* Jan 10th is issue triage day :) | ||
* 1.5 RefDocs Update | ||
* [https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes.github.io/pull/1818](https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes.github.io/pull/1818) | ||
* Manually reviewing some content, verifying HTML content. | ||
* Using Deploy preview to review. | ||
* Mehdy wants to release a blog post around the work that he’s done. | ||
* Versioning | ||
* Some thoughts: | ||
* Maintain a release branch for each release | ||
* Stage using netlify | ||
* Clarify the level of support for release branches | ||
* Only 1.5 going forward | ||
* Deprecation notices | ||
* Going to land on the site. Devin will decide. | ||
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**11/28/2016** | ||
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* Meeting using Zoom | ||
* 1.5 Launches (Ihor, Jared) | ||
* Launch Process Updates | ||
* Link to spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1g9JU-67ncE4MHMeKnmslm-JO_aKeltv2kg_Dd6VFmKs/edit#gid=0 | ||
* License Updates (Jared) | ||
* cla/linuxfoundation is required, google license is not. | ||
* Associated PRs: | ||
* [update LICENSE](https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes.github.io/pull/1763) | ||
* [update footer](https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes.github.io/pull/1764) | ||
* [update "how to contribute"](https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes.github.io/pull/1765) | ||
* Style Guides (Steve) | ||
* PRs checked in | ||
* Old Templates deleted. Long live the new templates. | ||
* In progress: Remove some content from README and editdocs, and blend it into the new contribution pages. | ||
* Issues Triaging (Abby) | ||
* PR coming soon | ||
* 1/10 triage day! | ||
* Kubernetes swag will be given | ||
* Quickstart Discussion: Bill Prin | ||
* Move getting started and creating a cluster content to “tasks” | ||
* Revamp content, remove GKE “Hello Node” | ||
* Jeff and Bill will come up with a more in depth proposal for next week. | ||
* API Reference docs (Phillip) | ||
* [docs.k8s.replicatingperfection.net](http://docs.k8s.replicatingperfection.net) | ||
* Questions? | ||
* Need folks to review API Docs | ||
* Sync with Devin on bandwidth | ||
* Soft launch for 1.5? | ||
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**11/15/2016** | ||
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Agenda: | ||
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* Site Updates | ||
* Issue Triaging (Abby) | ||
* [http://kubernetes.io/docs/contribute/](http://kubernetes.io/docs/contribute/) | ||
* Should schedule issue-triaging day | ||
* Steve suggests review-issue.md | ||
* Reference Docs Update? (Phillip) | ||
* Should have something in two weeks | ||
* Will use the updated refdocs for 1.5 | ||
* Style and Contributor Guides | ||
* PRs ready | ||
* Preparing for K8s 1.5 Release: [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PcAW-ZQnzlwEs59ygHdFA-72n6FUcGIc2lx4IeoXvco/edit?ts=57ced759#gid=110968752&vpid=A1](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PcAW-ZQnzlwEs59ygHdFA-72n6FUcGIc2lx4IeoXvco/edit?ts=57ced759#gid=110968752&vpid=A1) | ||
* Dev Summit Feedback | ||
* [Brainstormed Issues with Site](https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes.github.io/issues/1686) | ||
* [UX issues ](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BoF_wA7J6N-zuCUgwMMj27ngaj3e4T0YJhvTNwWiWj8/edit#heading=h.y2ttshn5nulr) | ||
* [Brainstorm on Developer Onboarding](https://docs.google.com/document/d/19B2vcK6Y3xE3JO7sd4n6lPF0m9bBVZpNucvcR3MwEXA/edit) | ||
* PR backlog | ||
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**10/25/2016** | ||
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Agenda | ||
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* Site Updates | ||
* Issue Backlog | ||
* Doc shared with the SIG docs group | ||
* [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j1A6sVW_t5RF_dlxIxpWVbAQeLUlzR1Z26zENBltRms/edit](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j1A6sVW_t5RF_dlxIxpWVbAQeLUlzR1Z26zENBltRms/edit) | ||
* Reference Docs Update | ||
* Redirects on Github? | ||
* API and CLI Docs updates | ||
* [http://docs.k8s.replicatingperfection.net/](http://docs.k8s.replicatingperfection.net/) | ||
* [http://kubectl.k8s.replicatingperfection.net/](http://kubectl.k8s.replicatingperfection.net/) | ||
* Suggested task docs | ||
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**10/11/2016** | ||
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No meeting due to technical issues. | ||
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**9/27/2016** | ||
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Announcements | ||
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* 1.4 went live! Hoorays! | ||
* Templates and new site layout went live! ([http://kubernetes.io/docs/](http://kubernetes.io/docs/)) | ||
* Tons of work to do here. | ||
* Bootcamp pages integrated into site: | ||
* http://kubernetes.io/docs/tutorials/getting-started/create-cluster/ | ||
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Agenda | ||
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* Launch process for upcoming releases | ||
* [Keep the spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PcAW-ZQnzlwEs59ygHdFA-72n6FUcGIc2lx4IeoXvco/edit?ts=57ced759#gid=0) | ||
* Sync with [Community Spreadsheet](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MeTQbtSiTCoQ74zjEGRI1rXRSP0Tzmo9-kMJSK_HGoA/) | ||
* Communicate out which branch to use | ||
* Delete the version branch immediately after launch? (most people say yes) | ||
* Number each branch | ||
* Pointing to the “right” version of kubernetes: | ||
* [https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/kubernetes-sig-docs/d5vB92b4HaI](https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/kubernetes-sig-docs/d5vB92b4HaI) | ||
* Toolset with the documentation deploys 1.3 | ||
* Please push to master :) | ||
* Issues: | ||
* PR template is in! | ||
* Jeff Menoza needs to merge template with “create issue” button | ||
* Proposal for issues will be out for review. | ||
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Kudos | ||
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* Phillip Wittrock | ||
* Devin Donnelly | ||
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**9/20/2016** | ||
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Agenda | ||
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* 1.4 Delayed until next week ([1.4 Spreadsheet)](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PcAW-ZQnzlwEs59ygHdFA-72n6FUcGIc2lx4IeoXvco/edit?ts=57ced759#gid=0) | ||
* [Doc Templates ](https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes.github.io/pull/1205) | ||
* Any more feedback? | ||
* Still adding canonical examples | ||
* Outstanding questions for those TBD by jeffmendoza | ||
* Bootcamp integrated into master ([pending PR](https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes.github.io/pull/1203)) | ||
* Not using the templates | ||
* Keeping the existing CSS | ||
* Issue Template update? | ||
* PR filed | ||
* CLA isn’t approved. Weird. | ||
* Is your github account under your company’s email? | ||
* Next Steps: | ||
* Submit PR | ||
* AI: Develop proposal for handling backlog of issues (Abby) | ||
* Run it by Frank for review | ||
* Dead link report: | ||
* AI: Regenerate the report, mark what will fixed in the upcoming release (1.4), focus on fixing manually generated content | ||
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Updates: | ||
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* New “edit docs” button at the bottom of the page | ||
* Fix in for generating API and Kubectl docs (no more broken links! Won’t get in until 1.4). | ||
* Kudos to Abby for creating the PR for issue templates | ||
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**9/13/2016** | ||
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Agenda | ||
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* Update on Netlify! (Devin) | ||
* Dan Paik - new PM on Gcloud/K8s - will be working on cluster deployments, GKE UI, and PetSet deployments | ||
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Updates: | ||
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* “I wish” is gone. “File an issue” instead. (thanks Jeff!) | ||
* Still need guidelines to close issues :) | ||
* Status of issue templates and guidelines? (Abby?) | ||
* Took a stab at [making an issue template](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aZ6vlxOhNtKNhNOUx_KTUw1bXCPPRH2_TJsNRz7CA58/edit?ts=57d83501) (in Google Doc) | ||
* Feedback: | ||
* Keep existing title with URL | ||
* Specify feature vs. bug (new doc vs. doc update) | ||
* File a PR :) | ||
* [1.4 Process](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PcAW-ZQnzlwEs59ygHdFA-72n6FUcGIc2lx4IeoXvco/edit?ts=57ced759#gid=0) | ||
* [Templates ](https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes.github.io/pull/1205)(Steve) | ||
* - Netlify | ||
* [SEO Issues with K8s](https://docs.google.com/document/d/19A8GL7lNpvrVZJyPLHYgM7axcw6PWxT1yjQydno58L0/edit#heading=h.ucf6rfasc6ai) | ||
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**August 30, 2016** | ||
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Agenda: | ||
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* Customer Feedback: | ||
* “I wish” | ||
* Make an issue / Make an edit | ||
* Remove the functionality, replace with make an issue/made edits | ||
* AI: Jeff Mendoza | ||
* Star ratings vs. Thumbs Up | ||
* Issues :( | ||
* 300 issues | ||
* Write up a md file for issue guidelines? | ||
* Issue templates? | ||
* AI: Abby: | ||
* Issue guidelines | ||
* Issue template | ||
* Close issues that don’t conform | ||
* Steve chat [through new templates](https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes.github.io/tree/docsv2/_includes/templates). | ||
* 1.4 Features and Publishing | ||
* Alpha: [14 Open Issues](https://github.com/kubernetes/features/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue%20is%3Aopen%20label%3Aalpha-in-1.4%20) | ||
* Beta: [8 Open Issues](https://github.com/kubernetes/features/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue%20is%3Aopen%20label%3Abeta-in-1.4%20) | ||
* Stable: [5 Open Issues](https://github.com/kubernetes/features/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aissue%20is%3Aopen%20label%3Astable-in-1.4%20) | ||
* Publishing process? | ||
* Current release branch | ||
* Under development release | ||
* Make a rule that any change in the current version has to be made in the “under development” version. | ||
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**August 23, 2016** | ||
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Agenda | ||
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* Introductions - New Members | ||
* Jared, Abby (Apprenda), Frank Solomon (Blogger, SWE) | ||
* Items from the past meeting: | ||
* Third party docs? Process for moving them? Plan? | ||
* [Issue in current UX Backlog](https://github.com/kubernetes/kubernetes/milestone/24) | ||
* [Dead Link Report](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vLmdCSZngIRUtBcG04QGWSQ42Pr3198n-RMctq8Kv7I/edit#gid=969833937) | ||
* If you have time please fix! | ||
* Please keep the status up to date | ||
* Kubernetes Bootcamp (Beta) | ||
* [https://kubernetesbootcamp.github.io/kubernetes-bootcamp/](https://kubernetesbootcamp.github.io/kubernetes-bootcamp/) | ||
* Please review if you have a chance | ||
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**August 16, 2016** | ||
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Kickoff Meeting! | ||
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Agenda | ||
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* Introductions - New Members | ||
* Jared (TW, Manager), Phillip (SWE, UX), Devin (TW), Steve (TW), Josh (SWE), Dan Romlein (UX, Apprenda), Abby (TW, Apprenda), Sarah Novotny (Community), Janet (SWE, UX), Frank, Morgan (TW, IBM) | ||
* Current state of the docs (Jared) | ||
* John Mulhausen has left the group | ||
* Devin and Steve are joining full time from Google | ||
* We want to make things easier for users navigating the site, and contributors contributing to the site. | ||
* Doc goals and doc plans (Devin) | ||
* Building on John’s work, building new processes. | ||
* Some findability and readability improvements in the short term. | ||
* Significant problems with findability. | ||
* Title != URL != Place in table of contents. | ||
* Good content with some better organization | ||
* For example: | ||
* Glossary is a collection of “conceptual articles”. Should better explain the “kubernetes model” | ||
* Also, a good place for new diagrams. | ||
* Better guidance on audience. Explicitly state who our audience is: | ||
* App Builders - Just running an application on top of K8s. Probably don’t want/need to know too much about what’s “under the hood” | ||
* Container Maintainers/Builders - Want to know the deeper aspects of K8s. | ||
* Build out the contributor | ||
* Style Guide (titling docs, content fit into categories, tone and term usage to unify content and fix SEO) | ||
* Templates - Build out | ||
* Contribution process | ||
* Questions: | ||
* Third party docs? How do we build and maintain them? | ||
* Proposal - that content should not live inside the core repo, since we can’t maintain it well. | ||
* No objections to this proposal so far.... Need to have a way to separate this process out and find new homes for it. | ||
* Need an owner for this process. | ||
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Additional Agenda Items? | ||
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* New contributor onboarding process (Phillip) | ||
* **_Style guide (Josh)_** | ||
* Initial tasks for new contributors | ||
* Repo Issues list | ||
* Github Issues that writers take on? | ||
* Getting help | ||
* Slack Channel (#sig-docs) for folks who need help or guidance. | ||
* Feel free to ping | ||
* To login to Zoom: Phillip directly. | ||
* Diagrams - How should we create these? (Phillip) | ||
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Issues, suggestions, concerns, kudos? | ||
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* Kudos: Thanks to Phillip Wittrock and Kelsey Hightower for closing out our list of outstanding docs PRs |
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