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Add chaostreff.ch #279

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@s3lph s3lph commented Feb 22, 2025

The new chaostreff.ch website has a SpaceAPI v15 (and only v15, since it has no location) endpoint which links to the endpoints of listed stpaces.

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dbrgn commented Feb 22, 2025

Hm, but is chaostreff.ch an organization on its own? Isn't it "just" a service/directory operated by CCC Basel?

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s3lph commented Feb 22, 2025

Does it have to be an organization on its own? In my understanding, accommodating such use cases was the exact reason why we made the location optional, so these kinds of "hubs" become possible. See also: #160 (ChaosZone, which I would say is also not an "organization on its own").

Or would you recommend to use it as a hub for linked spaces to be used in a future decentralized directory, but not add it to the centralized directory?

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s3lph commented Mar 5, 2025

@SpaceApi/core any thoughts on this?

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dbrgn commented Mar 8, 2025

In my understanding, accommodating such use cases was the exact reason why we made the location optional, so these kinds of "hubs" become possible.

My understanding is that it is mainly for organizations that don't have a physical location (e.g. a group that meets virtually, or a LUG that meets in different restaurants). Your example of ChaosZone is also such a virtual assembly, a group of people that belong together under the label "ChaosZone" that don't have a physical location.

From what I understand: Wouldn't chaostreff.ch be an application of SpaceAPI that could be listed at https://spaceapi.io/how-to-use/, instead of a space in the directory of spaces? After all, it is essentially an index of certain spaces in Switzerland, right?

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s3lph commented Mar 9, 2025

From what I understand: Wouldn't chaostreff.ch be an application of SpaceAPI that could be listed at https://spaceapi.io/how-to-use/, instead of a space in the directory of spaces? After all, it is essentially an index of certain spaces in Switzerland, right?

The website itself acts as an index, and does use the SpaceAPI endpoints of the listed spaces for displaying their open/close state on the map. However it also provides a SpaceAPI endpoint itself, which I think is only part index (via the linked_spaces attribute), but also part (and I'd argue mostly) a machine readable way to provide e.g. contact information for Chaostreffs in Switzerland in general. This is why I think it would be valuable to add to the directory.

@rnestler @gidsi any thoughts on this?

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rnestler commented Mar 10, 2025

However it also provides a SpaceAPI endpoint itself, which I think is only part index (via the linked_spaces attribute), but also part (and I'd argue mostly) a machine readable way to provide e.g. contact information for Chaostreffs in Switzerland in general.

I think it depends a bit what our vision for the linked_spaces attribute is. If it should help to create a decentralized directory I think we should encourage such meta-ish endpoints which group together other spaces and endpoints. Also these endpoints could collect events which are relevant for the region (Like Cosin or get-togethers in this case)

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