🌐 Website Issue | Team chat category

[Mikaela]

Our current recommendations for instant messengers are:

• Mobile: Signal
• Riot.im
• Wire

We consider the following as worth mentioning:

• Ricochet
• RetroShare
• subcategory XMPP
  • Monal
  • Conversations
  • Gajim
  • Kontalk
  • Status

We have open issues for including:

• Rocket.chat https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/999
• Keybase https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/issues/740

In the Rocket.chat issue there are three comments that we need a new category (and one that we don't).

I wondered in the context of my website whether these all are instant messengers and reached the conclusion that at least Riot.im and Keybase are more of team chat apps.

Riot.im is missing the basic feature of every instant messeger chat, contacts list. It treats everything as a room and there is nothing to prevent you from adding another user into 1:1 chat.

Keybase describes itself:

Communities, families, friends, schools, and companies. Keybase is for everyone, and it's growing fast. Unlike Slack, it is free. And without ads.

If your data is in the cloud, it should be encrypted. If you're putting people together, give Keybase a try.

I don't think it has a contacts list either, it has following system and doesn't require mutual befriending for exchaging messages, so I think it's like Riot. It also compares itself to Slack directly and Slack has nothing to do with 1:1 chat, their homepage is full of advertising itself for a team chat.

Thus I propose that we create a separate page for team chat and populate it with Keybase and Rocket.chat and Riot if we won't delist it (https://github.com/privacytoolsIO/privacytools.io/pull/1047). We could also start considering inclusion of Mattermost.

On Matrix, I don't know if anything else has implemented contacts list, I only know that Fractal is going to split into two apps, one for 1:1, one for team chat or at least I never heard about cancelling that plan. On XMPP, all apps that we list have a contacts list and others than Gajim are "Telegrammy" by which I mean they have all private and group chats in one screen and you get a full contacts list for starting a new chat.

[jamesponddotco]

Worth adding Wire Pro to the mix, as it is for "team collaboration and messaging".

We use it at our company for internal communication, and it works pretty well across all platforms we tested, i.e. macOS, Linux, iOS and Android.

A feature that we love is their secure guest room, which gives you a temporary channel where you can invite people for things like job interviews or client calls — everything is encrypted.

Worth every penny.

[Mikaela]

I am not sure as it costs, but I guess there is no harm in putting it to worth mentioning and linking to the pricing page. I am assuming that it shares the same client and server as the free version or is it different/propietary?
Thanks for the suggestion

[nitrohorse]

I am assuming that it shares the same client and server as the free version or is it different/propietary?

I know at least that their clients are the same because their release notes include Pro and Personal updates.