Backup Calling Guide #272
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I'm trying this on my Samsung S22 Android 14. Nada, expert mode and all. Wi-Fi calling works fine but as soon as it switches over to data, it's done. Not sure wh Google can't get basic stuff to work compared to Apple. Calling sim: Roaming |
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@fillwithjoy1 Forgive my ignorance, but is this patch necessary if you already have the "Switch mobile data automatically" toggle available under your calling SIM? Or is this patch necessary to get that toggle to show up in the first place? |
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Thanks @scrag for your feedback, but it will drain the battery and get the phone heated if it continuesly keep finding for signal....it defeats the purpose, any other way? |
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It will get a signal eventually through a.partner network. I've got it working that way without issue when overseas.
This is how backup dialling works.
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Thanks @scrag<https://github.com/scrag> for your feedback, but it will drain the battery and get the phone heated if it continuesly keep finding for signal....it defeats the purpose, any other way?
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You mean no connection like flight mode? Once before going to the new android version. When I turn on flight mode and WiFi on, it showed my carrier in Malaysia. Then after that it didn't and I can't do any flight mode calls with WiFi turn on. |
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On your Calling Sim you need to select a network that is forbidden so that the Calling Sim has no connection.
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You mean no connection like flight mode? Once before going to the new android version. When I turn on flight mode and WiFi on, it showed my carrier in Malaysia. Then after that it didn't and I can't do any flight mode calls with WiFi turn on.
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Oh ok, I get it....anyway to use back calling from travelling sim data? |
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That's what backup calling is.
You are making calls from your Calling SIM through the data connection of your Data SIM.
When you make a call it should say something like "calling via 'Calling SIM' shared-data call".
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Oh ok, I get it....anyway to use back calling from travelling sim data?
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@Paqueta7 and @scrag Can we please discuss under this thread. It's making this discussion look very messy. @Paqueta7 Have you read my guide completely? It tells you what you need to configure to get backup calling working. See if you can get Wi-Fi calling working first. |
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Yes @fillwithjoy1 , I have read your guide. but my phone is not working in vowifi, if I turn on airplane mode and and wifi. If works well if i use turn off airplane mode and keep my wifi on, I'm able to call my home country. And also your guide need to be updated a little where i think most people have moved to android 15 and the options are diffrent. Please advice, |
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does this backup calling still works on Android 15? if yes can the guide be updated Q#2: does the Data SIM really need wifi and\or voLTE enabled? it seems that it would only use the data part to make a call. |
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This guide is a literal savior and I share it every time someone asks about using a foreign data sim to act as WiFi calling on a pixel. USA based here. Two SIMs. SIM 1 has no service at one job site. SIM 2 does, but is very slow, but it's enough for me to get backup calling and backup texting. Is there a bool where I remain connected to WiFi, but because wifi ports are blocked, it falls back to Backup Calling as SIM2 has data? I work in the IT department, yet they are incompetent to fix the issue despite me pushing the issue the last two months since it started. I'm on a 9 Pro. |
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This is a guide for activating backup calling on your device. Android 14
TL:DR your calling SIM should have "Switch mobile data automatically" turned on. You do not need to turn on Data or Roaming. If the Calling SIM then reads "(carrier name) Backup calling" even if it reports no signal then Backup Calling is on. At this point just check that your data SIM allows wifi calling (if VoLTE works, you should be fine) and then pray that it connects.
For me it is not reliable and I'm occasionally able to get it to work but the success varies heavily based on your country. Just because it's unreliable for me doesn't mean that it won't work for you
Long guide:
Clearer guide on what to do (eSIM, pSIM doesn't matter)
When I refer to the
Data SIM
we are talking about the local sim that has internet availableWhen I refer to the
Calling SIM
we are talking about the roaming sim that has Wi-Fi Calling available (VoWIFI). If your carrier didn't have Wi-Fi calling working (test with airplane mode) before you travelled, this won't work.Calling SIM
enable these togglesEnable VoLTE
Enable Backup Calling
Enable VoWiFi
Enable VoWiFi while roaming
cosmetic wise, you can enable these
Show VoWiFi preference in Settings
Show VoWiFi Roaming preference in Settings
Show VoWiFi Icon
Once you have done these go to your
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Calling SIM
settings and enableSwitch mobile data automatically
(screenshot provided)You don't need to enable Roaming or Mobile data
Restart your phone
You should observe your
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Calling SIM
showing "Backup calling". It doesn't have to be connected yet (screenshots below, myData SIM
is Jio and you'll notice calling anyone withCalling SIM
reports no signal).Eventually your Calling SIM should connect successfully.
Troubleshooting
My
Calling SIM
is stuck on "Backup calling" but doesn't connect in the end.There could be a variety of reasons why it doesn't work. Personally I've found that opening Pixel IMS and going to
Expert Mode
on myCalling SIM
and turning onFORCE_HOME_NETWORK_BOOL
has started to get it working.Edit: It can also be due to your network blocking Wi-Fi calling (UDP Port 4500, IPsec Pass-Through) 1
My
Calling SIM
switches to "No Service" / "Emergency calls only" after a while (but it did connect successfully before)Try this:
Calling SIM
Expert Mode
FORCE_HOME_NETWORK_BOOL
and set it to trueMy
Calling SIM
is saying it's connected to Roaming and yet reports that it's connected as Backup calling.You have Roaming On and it's overriding Backup calling
Calling SIM
SIM card page and scroll down to Network sectionSelect Network
, or toggle offAutomatically Select Network
.Calling SIM
is connected to a local network operator.(forbidden)
. This will force your phone to use Backup Calling as it sees that Roaming is now not available.My
Data SIM
is marked as Roaming, will this cause issues?Yes because backup calling only kicks in if your
Data SIM
is in the "home network" (aka no roaming) 2For Backup Calling to kick in, your
Calling SIM
has to be in Roaming or Out of Service and yourData SIM
has to be in the "home network". If yourData SIM
is marked as roaming, then you'll need to bypass this by:FORCE_HOME_NETWORK_BOOL
and set it to TrueI am available for anyone who needs to get this working, just open a new thread and I'll do my best to help you
Outro
It's finicky at times. YMMV. I've noticed that Backup Calling works more reliably with different SIMs and even with different countries, so go figure
Notes
Footnotes
Wi-Fi Calling ports required ↩
Conditions for Backup calling to kick in ↩
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