SWG 2024-04-01

Meeting URL: https://meet.jit.si/StableHaskellMeetBiWeekly

Previous meeting notes

Agenda & Notes

New items to discuss

Abandoned packages
- We discussed this last time, but the community is clearly concerned/interested here
- From last time:
  - Botan bindings as an example:
    - Community groups with multiple maintainers
- Can HF help here?
  - Require some group of maintainership for sponsored projects?
    - Or a transition plan?
  - GHC.X.Hackage: haskellfoundation/tech-proposals#27
    - Could allow anyone to submit changes to work with ghc
      - Community could move faster to update
      - What about required api changes that the maintainer doesn't agree with?
        
        This effectively splits the package among users with one set of changes vs "official"
        
        See Mozilla disallowing changes made to firefox (creating iceweasel.)
      - Complementary with Stackage development process, which manually prompts package authors to update their packages
      - Note that GHC devs already maintain head.hackage, which already contains patches for all of Stackage (so that we can test GHC against it).
  - Sometimes a fork exists, and is maintained, but people may not be aware of that
    - How is it communicated to users?
Are there stability related projects to promote at Zurihac?

Short-Term Action Items From Previous

None

In progress projects

Updates

Extension lifecycle framework proposal #601
- Has been rennovated!
- mention ghc-proposals/ghc-proposals#635 and 636.
Simon's list of GHC-related stability issues

Parked Action Items/Projects

Bulletin discussed previously
- Previously holding the token: Chris

New for next week

Action items

Discussion items