Question: What specific camera types does the FOV affect?

[Autoxguy]

Version Number

v0.0.6

Describe the Issue

You say that the gameplay camera is affected and the chocobo camera is now affected (which is good, cause it was too close before), but what all camera types are affected by modifying the FOV now?

Steps to Reproduce

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Log File

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Save Game (If Relevant)

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[Lyall]

At the moment it's mainly my guess work as to the camera types affected. The only thing I know for sure is that the cutscenes use a different camera component so are unaffected by the gameplay FOV hooks. I've just recently made some changes to the hooks to use the SDK, so the gameplay FOV ones in particular will only affect the "field" and "battle".

You can see the specifics of how it will work in these lines:

FF7RebirthFix/src/dllmain.cpp

Lines 472 to 501 in a3394c8

	if (!bGlobalFOVMulti && fFOVMulti != 1.00f) {
	// Gameplay FOV
	std::uint8_t* GameplayFOVScanResult = Memory::PatternScan(exeModule, "C5 FA ?? ?? ?? C5 FA ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? 45 ?? ?? 49 ?? ?? BE ?? ?? ?? ?? 48 8B ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? 48 8B ?? ?? ??");
	std::uint8_t* GameplayFOVOtherScanResult = Memory::PatternScan(exeModule, "74 ?? C4 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? EB ?? C4 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? C4 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? C4 ?? ?? ?? ?? C4 ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? 41 ?? ??");
	if (GameplayFOVScanResult && GameplayFOVOtherScanResult) {
	spdlog::info("Gameplay FOV: Normal: Address is {:s}+{:x}", sExeName.c_str(), GameplayFOVScanResult - (std::uint8_t*)exeModule);
	static SafetyHookMid GameplayFOVMidHook{};
	GameplayFOVMidHook = safetyhook::create_mid(GameplayFOVScanResult,
	[](SafetyHookContext& ctx) {
	auto CamType = static_cast<SDK::EEndCameraOperatorType>(ctx.r13);
	if (CamType == SDK::EEndCameraOperatorType::Field || CamType == SDK::EEndCameraOperatorType::Battle)
	ctx.xmm0.f32[0] *= fFOVMulti;
	});
	spdlog::info("Gameplay FOV: Other: Address is {:s}+{:x}", sExeName.c_str(), GameplayFOVOtherScanResult - (std::uint8_t*)exeModule);
	static SafetyHookMid GameplayFOVOtherMidHook{};
	GameplayFOVOtherMidHook = safetyhook::create_mid(GameplayFOVOtherScanResult,
	[](SafetyHookContext& ctx) {
	auto CamType = static_cast<SDK::EEndCameraOperatorType>(ctx.r13);
	if (CamType == SDK::EEndCameraOperatorType::Field || CamType == SDK::EEndCameraOperatorType::Battle)
	ctx.xmm0.f32[0] *= fFOVMulti;
	});
	}
	else {
	spdlog::error("Gameplay FOV: Pattern scan(s) failed.");
	}
	}
	}

The enum for the camera operator type is this:

enum class EEndCameraOperatorType : uint8
{
	Debug                                    = 0,
	MenuModel                                = 1,
	Menu                                     = 2,
	Cut                                      = 3,
	Dialogue                                 = 4,
	PlannerEvent                             = 5,
	Shop                                     = 6,
	Rail                                     = 7,
	MiniGameCard                             = 8,
	MiniGame                                 = 9,
	Sequencer                                = 10,
	Battle                                   = 11,
	Field                                    = 12,
	MAX                                      = 13,
};

TL;DR At the moment it affects gameplay by my guesswork. In the next version it will specifically support "field" and "battle" camera types only.

[Lyall]

The aforementioned FOV changes are live in v0.0.8.

[Dr4Wm4N]

The chocobo FOV doesn't seem to work anymore in 0.0.8.

Verified with FOV console command: I set FOV multiplier to 1.25 in ini, which means it should result in a 75 FOV ingame, but it stays at 60 while riding a chocobo.

[DingleFrobber]

would it be possible to increase fov without also increasing camera distance? camera is so zoomed out from cloud it feels like an mmo at 1.5x

[Lyall]

The chocobo FOV doesn't seem to work anymore in 0.0.8.

Verified with FOV console command: I set FOV multiplier to 1.25 in ini, which means it should result in a 75 FOV ingame, but it stays at 60 while riding a chocobo.

Can you try this test build? It's got some reworked code for the gameplay FOV that should hopefully address this issue and more.

FF7RebirthFix_v0.0.9.zip

would it be possible to increase fov without also increasing camera distance? camera is so zoomed out from cloud it feels like an mmo at 1.5x

Technically yes, although increasing the FOV inherently pulls the camera back. There is a camera distance property that can be adjusted. If the test build I posted works properly then I can look at potentially adding an option for distance in the future.

[Autoxguy]

The chocobo FOV doesn't seem to work anymore in 0.0.8.
Verified with FOV console command: I set FOV multiplier to 1.25 in ini, which means it should result in a 75 FOV ingame, but it stays at 60 while riding a chocobo.

Can you try this test build? It's got some reworked code for the gameplay FOV that should hopefully address this issue and more.

FF7RebirthFix_v0.0.9.zip

would it be possible to increase fov without also increasing camera distance? camera is so zoomed out from cloud it feels like an mmo at 1.5x

Technically yes, although increasing the FOV inherently pulls the camera back. There is a camera distance property that can be adjusted. If the test build I posted works properly then I can look at potentially adding an option for distance in the future.

Will this work with the game since it got its first patch? I was using your 0.0.7 version but now it seems broken.

[Lyall]

Will this work with the game since it got its first patch? I was using your 0.0.7 version but now it seems broken.

That's what I've been testing with, so yes? Hopefully.

[DingleFrobber]

The chocobo FOV doesn't seem to work anymore in 0.0.8.
Verified with FOV console command: I set FOV multiplier to 1.25 in ini, which means it should result in a 75 FOV ingame, but it stays at 60 while riding a chocobo.

Can you try this test build? It's got some reworked code for the gameplay FOV that should hopefully address this issue and more.

FF7RebirthFix_v0.0.9.zip

would it be possible to increase fov without also increasing camera distance? camera is so zoomed out from cloud it feels like an mmo at 1.5x

Technically yes, although increasing the FOV inherently pulls the camera back. There is a camera distance property that can be adjusted. If the test build I posted works properly then I can look at potentially adding an option for distance in the future.

oh thats neat! i just entered costa del sol and theres no chocobos yet but fov applies properly to segways in 0.0.9 compared to 0.0.8

[Lyall]

I've put out the fix for regressions related to the gameplay FOV in v0.0.9. I've also made it so that the camera distance limits are increased from 3 to 10. That should be a good option for those that don't want to push the FOV too high.

[DingleFrobber]

thats great! i want the opposite effect tho. high fov + low camera distance. is it possible to make ingame menu go into negative values?

kinda like this:

compared to this:

still 1.5x fov but game pulls camera closer indoors. it looks a lot nicer while still maintaining a comfortable fov.

[Autoxguy]

thats great! i want the opposite effect tho. high fov + low camera distance. is it possible to make ingame menu go into negative values?

kinda like this:

How did you accomplish this, cause like you say it looks like the camera is the same distance but the actual FOV seems increased compared to vanilla?

Other than just not putting the effort into it, I don't understand why developers don't make FOV in third person function like vertical FOV in 1st person games where its not just the camera pulling back but you actually see more of the world around you.

[DingleFrobber]

i didnt. game does this in a few instances. mostly for indoor areas.

[Autoxguy]

i didnt. game does this in a few instances. mostly for indoor areas.

Oh so you are saying that when increasing the camera distance beyond the vanilla values, when you go indoors, it looks like that in a few instances?

I am not that far into the game myself, been doing a lot of sidequests and finished the grasslands area. Even though I am in chapter 4 I have not gotten to the point where you dress up as the soldiers yet, but I think I am very close.

[DingleFrobber]

Oh so you are saying that when increasing the camera distance beyond the vanilla values, when you go indoors, it looks like that in a few instances?

nope. ingame camera is at set to the lowest value (1) and rebirthfix fov is set to 1.5x. im suggesting that the game would retain the intended 'over the shoulder' look while still maintaining high fov if camera distance can be lowered below 1.